Author: allan johnson
Date: 23:32:11 10/18/00
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On October 17, 2000 at 20:50:15, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On October 17, 2000 at 20:31:52, Charles Milton Ling wrote: > >>On October 17, 2000 at 20:23:13, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>On October 17, 2000 at 19:51:05, Andrew Dados wrote: >>> >>>>On October 17, 2000 at 19:37:32, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>> >>>>>When two humans play an open game of chess specially for the World's >>>>>Title it is very exciting to watch. We have not seen too many of these open >>>>>games played since the era of Bobby fischer, which is probably the reason why >>>>>his games were full of fire. But if any of these two gladiators dare to play an >>>>>open game against any of the top leading programs such as Fritz and Chess Tiger >>>>>they would not have a chance to defeat these tactical monsters. >>>>>The only way to beat the best P.C chess programs is by playing the way that >>>>>Kramnik played against Deep Junior with opening like the Stone wall Defense, and >>>>>once P.C chess programs are programmed to handle closed openings like the Stone >>>>>Wall defense they will become unbeatable. >>>>> >>>>>Pichard. >>>> >>>>Your claims are baseless. Why do you keep posting those trolls? >>>>-Andrew- >>> >>>I post these messages because there are still people like you who do not seems >>>to know where the real strength of a computer program lies, unless you have been >>>hiden underneath a rock for the last five years, I would not waste my time >>>trying to explain to you from where am I making these assumptions, neither you >>>seems to be too knowledgeable to comprehend these issues. I am almost certain >>>that almost 60 % of the CCC readers would agree with me on this matter. >>> >>>Pichard. >> >>Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Shirov hand Fritz (running on a very >>impressive machine) its head on a plate in Frankfurt not too many months ago in >>a Ruy Lopez with wild tactics? >> >>Charley > >You are correct my friend, but lately when a super GM accomplish such a fearless >task of beating either Fritz, Deep Junior or any other top P.C. programs with an >open game, it immediately becomes a heading on major European newspapers, >remember when it used to be the other way around, just a couple of years ago >when it was very difficult for any P.C. chess program to beat any of the top 10 >players in the world. Thank for reminding me of that event, now I can make my >point clear when I mentioned that top GMs are forced to use closed >openings in order to keep the edge. > >Pichard. From what I've read on this topic so far Pichard it seems to me that your claims do lack credibility.I know in short time games chess computers can beat gms but once the gms get time to see the position more clearly they generally out play c.c. programs.My belief is that this will continue for some time because it's getting more and more difficult to make significant improvements in c.c programs. Mind you Pichard I thought they'd have trouble getting them to play at the level they do now.A fantastic achievement I think Cheers Allan
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