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Subject: Re: I can't believe this.....etc. MODERATION, why is this allowed?

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 02:26:59 11/02/00

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On November 01, 2000 at 21:30:12, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On November 01, 2000 at 18:09:30, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>On November 01, 2000 at 17:54:26, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>Please correct me if I am wrong, but I doubt that you use those words around
>>>groups of children, or around groups of conservative older people.
>>
>>the s-word is used by children and by older people. its a fill-word here.
>>if something happens that is unwished and unpleasant, almost anybody who
>>is <=50 uses it.
>>
>>of course older people say: "verdammt" , or "sch.... eibenkleister".
>>
>>but the average german here in my area (ruhrgebiet) says it.
>>
>>> If you do
>>>use them around such groups, I would be surprised if this doesn't bother
>>>someone.
>>
>>sorry for using it. i see it was wrong.
>>
>>>bruce
>
>It is an interesting issue.  This particular word was the strongest word my
>father used when I was a kid, and he used it casually, but if I had used it in
>front my parents, I would have suffered dire punishment.  I use those words and
>more serious ones around my kids, but not casually.  My seven year-old knows
>about all of these words, but he has never used them in front of me.  I would
>tell him that I don't care if he uses those words as long as he is capable of
>not sounding like an idiot.
>
>These words are all very commonly heard if you go outside and stand on a street
>corner.  And many of the people who say them will say them in front of my kids,
>although not *to* my kids.
>
>Perhaps there is some cultural difference, and that could explain it.

Probabely. In Holland, shit isn't considered a real curse, but more as an
expression of "oh well, too bad"

Tony

>
>I think that in this country, some people would be aghast if you used those
>words in front of a kid, and some would tolerate their kids using them in
>everyday conversation in the house.  The attitude regarding that kind of speech
>is not completely uniform.
>
>bruce



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