Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 11:59:23 11/02/00
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On November 02, 2000 at 14:22:39, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On November 01, 2000 at 22:30:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On November 01, 2000 at 21:30:12, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>>On November 01, 2000 at 18:09:30, Thorsten Czub wrote: >>> >>>>On November 01, 2000 at 17:54:26, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>>Please correct me if I am wrong, but I doubt that you use those words around >>>>>groups of children, or around groups of conservative older people. >>>> >>>>the s-word is used by children and by older people. its a fill-word here. >>>>if something happens that is unwished and unpleasant, almost anybody who >>>>is <=50 uses it. >>>> >>>>of course older people say: "verdammt" , or "sch.... eibenkleister". >>>> >>>>but the average german here in my area (ruhrgebiet) says it. >>>> >>>>> If you do >>>>>use them around such groups, I would be surprised if this doesn't bother >>>>>someone. >>>> >>>>sorry for using it. i see it was wrong. >>>> >>>>>bruce >>> >>>It is an interesting issue. This particular word was the strongest word my >>>father used when I was a kid, and he used it casually, but if I had used it in >>>front my parents, I would have suffered dire punishment. I use those words and >>>more serious ones around my kids, but not casually. My seven year-old knows >>>about all of these words, but he has never used them in front of me. I would >>>tell him that I don't care if he uses those words as long as he is capable of >>>not sounding like an idiot. >>> >>>These words are all very commonly heard if you go outside and stand on a street >>>corner. And many of the people who say them will say them in front of my kids, >>>although not *to* my kids. >>> >>>Perhaps there is some cultural difference, and that could explain it. >>> >>>I think that in this country, some people would be aghast if you used those >>>words in front of a kid, and some would tolerate their kids using them in >>>everyday conversation in the house. The attitude regarding that kind of speech >>>is not completely uniform. >>> >>>bruce >> >> >>I don't particularly find that offensive. I knew a faculty member at the >>previous university where I worked that had a rubber stamp that said >> >> B U L L S H I T ! >> >>and if a student answered a question in a way that showed that he didn't have >>any idea of what the right answer was, and he was simply trying to bluff his >>way thru the question, this faculty member would <STAMP> that answer. >> >>:) >> >>He was eventually granted tenure so I assume it didn't raise too many >>eyebrows. :) > >I doubt it would raise too many eyebrows in college. It might raise a few in a >fourth grade class. > >I teach chess at a Montessori school, and I'm probably going to get nuked >eventually, because I use all sorts of interesting language, and eventually a >parent is going to figure out how their kids are getting their vocabularies >enriched. > >bruce We caught on pretty quick, when our 3 year old son came home one day saying "Mom, I know what a mother is, but what does it mean to 'fug' one?" Took my wife a minute or two, but she slowly turned red, and burned a few ears at the daycare center. :)
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