Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 11:22:39 11/02/00
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On November 01, 2000 at 22:30:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On November 01, 2000 at 21:30:12, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >>On November 01, 2000 at 18:09:30, Thorsten Czub wrote: >> >>>On November 01, 2000 at 17:54:26, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>Please correct me if I am wrong, but I doubt that you use those words around >>>>groups of children, or around groups of conservative older people. >>> >>>the s-word is used by children and by older people. its a fill-word here. >>>if something happens that is unwished and unpleasant, almost anybody who >>>is <=50 uses it. >>> >>>of course older people say: "verdammt" , or "sch.... eibenkleister". >>> >>>but the average german here in my area (ruhrgebiet) says it. >>> >>>> If you do >>>>use them around such groups, I would be surprised if this doesn't bother >>>>someone. >>> >>>sorry for using it. i see it was wrong. >>> >>>>bruce >> >>It is an interesting issue. This particular word was the strongest word my >>father used when I was a kid, and he used it casually, but if I had used it in >>front my parents, I would have suffered dire punishment. I use those words and >>more serious ones around my kids, but not casually. My seven year-old knows >>about all of these words, but he has never used them in front of me. I would >>tell him that I don't care if he uses those words as long as he is capable of >>not sounding like an idiot. >> >>These words are all very commonly heard if you go outside and stand on a street >>corner. And many of the people who say them will say them in front of my kids, >>although not *to* my kids. >> >>Perhaps there is some cultural difference, and that could explain it. >> >>I think that in this country, some people would be aghast if you used those >>words in front of a kid, and some would tolerate their kids using them in >>everyday conversation in the house. The attitude regarding that kind of speech >>is not completely uniform. >> >>bruce > > >I don't particularly find that offensive. I knew a faculty member at the >previous university where I worked that had a rubber stamp that said > > B U L L S H I T ! > >and if a student answered a question in a way that showed that he didn't have >any idea of what the right answer was, and he was simply trying to bluff his >way thru the question, this faculty member would <STAMP> that answer. > >:) > >He was eventually granted tenure so I assume it didn't raise too many >eyebrows. :) I doubt it would raise too many eyebrows in college. It might raise a few in a fourth grade class. I teach chess at a Montessori school, and I'm probably going to get nuked eventually, because I use all sorts of interesting language, and eventually a parent is going to figure out how their kids are getting their vocabularies enriched. bruce
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