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Subject: Re: I can't believe this.....etc. MODERATION, why is this allowed?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:30:03 11/01/00

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On November 01, 2000 at 21:30:12, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On November 01, 2000 at 18:09:30, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>On November 01, 2000 at 17:54:26, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>Please correct me if I am wrong, but I doubt that you use those words around
>>>groups of children, or around groups of conservative older people.
>>
>>the s-word is used by children and by older people. its a fill-word here.
>>if something happens that is unwished and unpleasant, almost anybody who
>>is <=50 uses it.
>>
>>of course older people say: "verdammt" , or "sch.... eibenkleister".
>>
>>but the average german here in my area (ruhrgebiet) says it.
>>
>>> If you do
>>>use them around such groups, I would be surprised if this doesn't bother
>>>someone.
>>
>>sorry for using it. i see it was wrong.
>>
>>>bruce
>
>It is an interesting issue.  This particular word was the strongest word my
>father used when I was a kid, and he used it casually, but if I had used it in
>front my parents, I would have suffered dire punishment.  I use those words and
>more serious ones around my kids, but not casually.  My seven year-old knows
>about all of these words, but he has never used them in front of me.  I would
>tell him that I don't care if he uses those words as long as he is capable of
>not sounding like an idiot.
>
>These words are all very commonly heard if you go outside and stand on a street
>corner.  And many of the people who say them will say them in front of my kids,
>although not *to* my kids.
>
>Perhaps there is some cultural difference, and that could explain it.
>
>I think that in this country, some people would be aghast if you used those
>words in front of a kid, and some would tolerate their kids using them in
>everyday conversation in the house.  The attitude regarding that kind of speech
>is not completely uniform.
>
>bruce


I don't particularly find that offensive.  I knew a faculty member at the
previous university where I worked that had a rubber stamp that said

     B U L L S H I T !

and if a student answered a question in a way that showed that he didn't have
any idea of what the right answer was, and he was simply trying to bluff his
way thru the question, this faculty member would <STAMP> that answer.

:)

He was eventually granted tenure so I assume it didn't raise too many
eyebrows.  :)



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