Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 04:39:24 11/08/00
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On November 08, 2000 at 06:28:54, Joe Besogn wrote: >>Just replace amerindian's bows and arrows with nuclear bombs, leave them alone >>for a while, then come back and ask them what they think about the efficiency of >>this new tool. >> >>Oops... There is nobody left to answer. They had the choice to use the bombs to >>hunt (and nuke themselves), or to die from starvation. >> >>Just a remark about the different ways to view things. :) if Gorbatschow would not have changed paradigms, (the americans would never have done this ! they still live in a paradigm where Russians are their main danger and communism is the devil ! - for americans the paradigm changes have not been happened, but here in europe, the paradigm change in politics has been done succesfully.) we would still live in a cold war, with 2 berlins, 2 germanys and the rockets on the left and on the right side. in the moment the americans give up to boycott cuba, they show that they got an idea about paradigm change. so far - no progress. >Quite so. To draw on Kuhn's ideas .... >Fernando was doing 'normal science' - and was arguing on the more-is-better, >bigger-is-better basis (nukes more effective than bows and arrows). right. >Christophe feels the revolutionary space is growing, so he fills it a little >more. :-) >Just drawing parallels. IMO many people don't understand that gambit-tiger is different than other programs, like cstal was different in its time. it trusts its evaluations, and the very efficient search gambit-tiger has, makes its IDEAS so powerful that it can easily win to country-championships en passant. christophe is very clever in combining new ideas. old tiger was very strong, and aggressive. that was the reason the old tiger was a beast when it first appeared in the scene. but by tuning and tuning, old tiger (that is now version 13) lost some strength. christophe wanted to make it more accurate, and this completely stopped tiger from playing its own game. but christophe, and that is his main strength IMO, is capable to say: i maybe made a mistake, i have to reconsider. if i don't get good results anymore, my way is maybe wrong. i have to try out the new way. i have often realized how pragmatic christophe is when it comes to changes in tiger. this is rare IMO. most chess programmers are afraid to change their child. especially when it is very strong. they only tune. little by little. christophe made a new engine, and combined all his experience so far into it, and IMO he also learned from cstal-way and that you have to CONTROL the game, with initiative. something the old tiger 11.2 had at the paderborn-tournament, when shredder (as clever+smart) and nimzo and comet and gandalf and and and first met, and chess-tiger 11.2 made the 3rd rank. IMO the main fight is between stefan and christophe. Stefan has now to compete with new ideas , with the new paradigm. in the moment stefan tries this way too, the old paradigm is lost, cause when the new paradigm gets better results, and the best programs choose the new way, the old concepts get forgotten - no matter how loud the old wolfes (and we know they will cry for their life-work...) will cry to the moon... gorbatchow had the power to change his own system ! he knew HE has to do it. the same for other revolutionists. sometimes you have to tear down your own system. because you have seen it is not working anymore, you have to change. remember what jesus did in the temple ? gambit - tiger is IMO such a beast. it is revolutionary. the problem for the others is: with cstal they were able to say: it works only 50% of the games. its shit. they cannot say the same with gambit-tiger, can they ? gambit-tiger will develop. christophe will make 2.0 and later 3.0 and if he follows the new way, i am sure the old paradigm has nothing to stop him.
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