Author: Uri Blass
Date: 13:38:34 12/02/00
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On December 02, 2000 at 11:39:14, leonid wrote: >On December 01, 2000 at 20:36:27, walter irvin wrote: > >>i have no doubt that you have a monster of a system , but i still believe that a >>human will always find a way . not all people for sure .but the best player will >>always be a human because people are so devious , sneaky , slippery,and cheat >>,actually hate to lose .plus some people are just super smart , like a morphy .i >>really believe that if morphy played deep blue a 6 game match morphy would have >>won .there will always come a person who will be able to beat the machine .true >>maybe if the person did not know who they were playing the machine would win . >>but the human does know ,plays his style based on that . > >I think that human is inevitable looser in the chess game at long run. I doubt >very much that chess game, as game for human, will stay alive more that one >century. As calligraphy became pointless with invention of typewriter, human >game will fade out as soon as computers brain will become somewhat mature. It is not the same. Chess is a sport. Humans did not stop to compete in running because of cars and for the same reason they will not stop to compete in chess because of chess programs. >Computers now just started their life. Never mind! Even now they proved to be >able to beat almost every human while they are in deep infancy. > >8 men tables is good but not that important for computers final win. When >computer will be strong enough, it will win each chess game well before game >will reach its final stage. I do not agree about it. The question is about the complexity of the game. I believe that the game is simple enough for the best humans to draw part of the games against computers at 40/ 2 hours. If the game is simple enough humans can solve it and draw every game against computers. Chess is not so simple that humans can solve it but I believe that it is simple enough for the best humans to draw always part of the games at the time control of 2 hours/40 moves. I expect programs to win humans in every game but only in more complex games like go when the board is 19*19 and not 8*8. Uri
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