Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 00:08:33 12/07/00
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On December 06, 2000 at 13:30:05, Harry Field wrote:
>On December 06, 2000 at 10:52:06, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>On December 06, 2000 at 01:20:08, Christophe Theron wrote:
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>>>On December 06, 2000 at 00:50:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>>>Isn't this the latest fad? Can you say "deep junior", "deep fritz"? Care
>>>>to guess where "deep" was first used? :) Ie what could be more confusing
>>>>than "deep junior" after there is already a very famous program that went
>>>>by "deep blue junior"???
>>>
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>>>I wouldn't have dared to say it myself. I happen to be in perfect agreement with
>>>you on this topic.
>>>
>>>
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>>I'm a big boy. I don't mind stating the obvious.
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>Except you happen to be wrong. Big boy.
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>>:)
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>>>>Seems to me that borrowing from a "famous name" is quite acceptable,
>>>>wouldn't you think?
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>>>I did not say it is not acceptable or illegal.
>>>
>>>It's just a low commercial practice. And generally used by followers, that's why
>>>I have been disappointed to see Stefan doing it.
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>>> Christophe
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>>I wouldn't begin to claim to know the motivation behind any of the look-alike
>>names. I simply don't like the idea much. IE "crafty" is "crafty" whether it
>>is a parallel searcher or a serial searcher. I don't like any of the following,
>>personally:
>>
>>1. the name is a proper subset of the name of another program. IE there is
>>already a program named x y z, and the new name is either x y, x z or y z.
>>
>>2. the name is an improper subset of the name of another program. ie there
>>is a program named x y, and the new program is named x z or y z.
>>
>>1 certainly leads to mass confusion. 2 leads to some confusion. Both seem to
>>be 'strange'...
>>
>>IE on ICC we have had a "deepblue", a "deeperblue". A "diepblue". Etc.
>>I don't like any of them. Since none have Hsu/Campbell/Hoane/etc behind them.
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>Hsu/Cambell ripped the name "Deep Thought" off from the Douglas Adams book
>"Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy". Deep Thought was a computer which was
>supposed to be able to answer the question of life, the universe and everything,
>taking seven million years and producing the answer "42".
>
>Also around at that time, as "big boys" will remember, was the Linda Lovelace
>porn movie "Deep Throat", featuring a prolonged act of oral sex for the "first"
>time on mass release in video porn stores. The name "Deep Throat" was then used
>for the mole in the Nixon administration which was feeding inside informations
>to Woodward/Berstein team reference the Watergate scandal. Whether Deep Thought
>or Deep Throat came first (sic), I don't know. Both came before Hsu and co.
>
>Deep Thought was then renamed Deep Blue for IBM purposes. How your theory that a
>ripped off name could then be 'owned' and further users of it castigated is
>beyond me. Have you an agenda or case to prove?
>
>
>"Gambit" is a well known chess term and is and has been used left right and
>centre for quite a while. You can purchase chess programs at "Gambitsoft", you
>can purchase "Kasparov's Gambit", there is a "Gambit Tiger", programs now are
>released with "versions" containing Gambit in the name. We know some of you like
>to own everything, but facts right before foot goes in mouth in future, please.
>You are not original.
I don't understand why you are attacking Bob in such a gross way. I even wonder
if you have understood a word of what he was saying.
Further, a few weeks after "Gambit Tiger" has been released, and welcomed by the
community, somebody produces a "Gambit" program.
It does not sound obvious to you that this is only for commercial reasons?
Juming on the bandwagon without paying the fare?
What is the last time before "Gambit Tiger" that a program has used the word
"Gambit"?
Answer: 1993. It was "Kasparov Gambit".
That was my only point. Anyway Stefan can use the word "Gambit", it's not
illegal.
Christophe
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