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Subject: Re: Best Program

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 23:37:54 12/25/00

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On December 25, 2000 at 20:31:21, Peter Berger wrote:

>On December 25, 2000 at 18:33:39, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
><snip>
>
>>I mean for marketing ... !
>>
>>On the other hand ... Shredder lose not 1 game in the latest 5 important
>>tournaments. This program is strong, very strong !
>>
>>Intersting is a tournament from the TOP 4 programs:
>>
>>Deep Fritz, Shredder, Chess Tiger and Gandalf !
>>Here a tournament all against all other 100 games, fast PC and I think 40 moves
>>in 40 minutes is enough.
>>
>>I think you can here better see what is the best computer program for a match
>>against Anand. And believe me ... Gandalf make not the latest place !
>>
>>Best
>>Frank
>
>Hmm , I wouldn't be too surprised if Gandalf ended last in this tournament ;-) ;
>but maybe this is only because I don't own this super hardware where it is said
>to be unbeatable ..
>
>These are the TOP 4 ? May I add 4 more ?
>
>Nimzo 8 , Junior 6 , Rebel Century 3.0 , Chessmaster 8000 .
>
>Are you really sure that your 4 would be higher ranked than "my" 4 and none of
>these 4 could end as overall winner of this big contest :-) ?

I know results from over 1.200 games. I think this is enough to say it is one of
the best programs.

I don`t know the new Chessmaster and saw not enough games. Nimzo 8 and Junior 6
are very strong but I think Fritz, Gandalf, Tiger and Shredder are better. Rebel
Century is also very strong, here I believe that the other 4 programs are
stronger. I am not sure ! Gandalf has problems against Century and Shredder
(44-48% with longer time controls). Problems against Chess Tiger (48%) not
against Gambit-Tiger and all other TOP programs with longer time controls and an
fast PC. But all other TOP programs have problems against different other TOP
programs, I think this is interesting.

Nimzo 8 started at the moment in my CCE tourney. After 5:3 against Comet B.27,
now 3.5 : 2.5 against Crafty 17.14. More results coming soon. I think Nimzo 8.0
is not one of the best programs. Gandalf has also not very big problems against
all Nimzo versions.

But all these programs are very intersting.

>It seems to me that the competition at the top is closer than ever . And I also
>think to find out who is the best opponent for Anand this tournament wouldn't
>help at all.

The best program against a good GM is a programs which play good in tactical
positions and good in attack chess.

LCT-II test: Gandalf is number 1 !
GS-2930 test: Gandalf solved 10 problems, I believe under the top 3 !
BS-2930 test: Over 2.700 ELO and I believe under the top 3 !

Gandalf plays the best attack chess from all programs which I saw, have a lot of
knowledge and so I have the opinion that Gandalf is a good program for a match
against a SUPER GM !

I am sure, so I can write this ... no problem !

Best
Frank



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