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Subject: Re: ChessGenius/Visor Prism vs Fidelity EAG/Mach III , 4.5 - 5.5

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 06:06:20 01/02/01

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On January 02, 2001 at 06:52:46, Tom Glenn wrote:

>On January 01, 2001 at 19:29:38, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>>>Rank Program            C rating
>>>> 124 Fidelity Mach III  68000 16 MHz         1993   14  2410   52%  1980
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>>I also think (correct me if I'm wrong) that the Mach III has hash tables, and
>>Chess Genius for Palm has none.
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>
>
>........   the old ad says... "includes hash tables  8,000 positions"
>
>  In theory ,  what could a program be rated (SSDF) on a device like
>  this , given the physical limitations ?  (33MHz , and if the total
>  program isn't over 4-5 mg)



I think the answer is between the two following lines:

  86 Mephisto Lyon  68030 36 MHz             2151   28   -27   716   68%  2016
 111 Mephisto Berlin  68 000 12 MHz          2015   22   -22   986   57%  1966

I take Lang's programs as reference as they are known to be well optimized for
680x0 processors.

The DragonBall processor is close to a 68000 (at the same clock frequency). So
the Mephisto Lyon @36MHz would be above, and the Mephisto Berlin is clearly
below.

My best guess is the rating of the Berlin on 68000 @12MHz + the elo difference
you get by speeding up the processor to 33MHz (that makes
70*log(33/12)/log(2)=102 elo points).

So it would be rated 2117 elo (SSDF). This does not account for software
improvements that have been done since the Berlin, maybe 50 to 100 additional
points? I don't know...

So 2200 SSDF elo looks like an upper bound. In the state of the art...




>  The Visor takes plug-ins also.  Maybe you guys could rig up a little
>  "deep-blue" module to plug in  ??


I don't see what kind of module we could add to improve things. I guess the only
useful module would be a faster processor, but you would not like the dimished
battery life that would result.



    Christophe



>  The digital camera module works.  Not top quality by any means , but
>  its pretty cool also.
>                         .........  Tom



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