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Subject: Re: Material vs Positional Assessments

Author: Hermano Ecuadoriano

Date: 13:51:08 01/09/01

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On January 08, 2001 at 11:42:40, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 08, 2001 at 10:42:36, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 08, 2001 at 10:34:38, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On January 08, 2001 at 10:09:34, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 08, 2001 at 10:02:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 08, 2001 at 08:12:25, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On January 07, 2001 at 20:57:46, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>One well known rule of thumb is: It is often a bad idea to grab more material
>>>>>>>when already ahead in material.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>For instance, when I play, I generally avoid increasing my material advantage
>>>>>>>unless it does not cost me anything (time, structure, open lines for opponent,
>>>>>>>etc.) to do so or I have nothing else to do that is constructive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In fact, a reasonable rule of thumb for open positions might be: The 1st pawn
>>>>>>>grabbed is worth 3 tempi, but the 2nd pawn is only worth 1 tempo. Something I
>>>>>>>observed while I studied some of Morphy's games.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My question is: Do any programs take this into account or do they all consider
>>>>>>>the 2nd pawn they grab to be as valuable as the 1st?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>why do you assume all programs are preprocessors?
>>>>>
>>>>>I did not read this assumption.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>He says: "if you make a move capturing a second pawn"
>>>>
>>>>So his way of seeing a positions evaluation is move based.
>>>
>>>I think that he meant that if you increase your material advantage from 1 pawn
>>>to 2 pawns and it is not move based.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I mean that he meant to say that the positional advantage should not be added
>>linearly.
>>
>>It means that if you see that white has 1/2 pawns positional advantage for
>>reason A and 1/2 pawns positional advantage for reason B the total advantage is
>>more than 1 pawn.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>This is the way my king safety works, for example.

If you had any use for market saavy at this point, you could call the bonus
"synergy", which it is in fact.



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