Author: Hermano Ecuadoriano
Date: 06:48:06 01/30/01
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On January 30, 2001 at 08:34:30, Mogens Larsen wrote: >On January 30, 2001 at 07:45:54, Hermano Ecuadoriano wrote: > >>This is misleading. > >No, it isn't. I'm sorry for using that word. Instead of "misleading", I should have said that it "isn't to the point, as far as the USER is concerned." If there is no way to run Winboard engines under some interface without serious degradation, then the "disease" is in the GUI, as far as the customer is concerned. Chessbase makes some great products! But anyone expecting Winboard engines to run optimally under their GUI's should be warned. And now, we wonder whether or not the Shredder GUI should come with this same caveat. (That is a good function of this newsgroup.) The original poster bought the program, expecting reasonable results, just as I bought my first Chessbase GUI with the engine-engine capabilities. But let it be known that if accurate results are possible, it must be between CB Native engines, as far as I know, that one must BUY! That is O.K.! But the customer should KNOW ABOUT IT! (I know you already know all of this. I am using the thread to say it again to everyone else.) > >>The disease is in those GUIs, like CHESSBASE, that send "new", "force", and >>other things before every move. >>If Shredder does this too, then its implementation is also diseased. > >You have to distinguish between two different implementations under the Shredder >GUI. The direct WinBoard implementation using the WinBoard adapter suffer from >the problems you mention as clarified several weeks before. > >However, there's a freely available UCI protocol that should solve these >problems and ensure optimal performance. A native protocol similar to what >Chessbase uses except that it's freely available. > >In this case the Yace engine support both protocols and the user, who reported >the problems in this thread, had installed Yace using the wrong protocol. >Whether it has anything to do with the time losses is another question. > >>The ERT has no such disease. > >Maybe, maybe not. > >>Let me rephrase more accurately what you said: >>"The CHESSBASE implementation of the Winboard protocol is DISEASED, as are >>all others that send "new" before every move, etc., etc." > >I didn't say anything like that. It was a specific question about a specific GUI >and the various options it offers. The accuracy of your statement is also >debatable. > >Mogens.
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