Author: Jason Williamson
Date: 19:47:40 05/19/01
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On May 19, 2001 at 20:51:46, stuart taylor wrote: >On May 19, 2001 at 19:12:10, Graham Banks wrote: > >>On May 19, 2001 at 15:34:15, william penn wrote: >> >>>i suspect that cm6555 would still score among the top three, even against the >>>best and newest programs. Cm8000 is a rip-off since there is a noticable >>>decrease in strength from the previous more strong version 6000 >> >>Has anybody played the two off against each other over a significant number of >>games? >>Are the results of matches against other top programs comparatively worse or are >>you just looking at the SSDF Deep Fritz result? >>I'd like to hear the informed opinions of others also, but any assumption must >>be backed up by strong evidence. >>Graham. > > >There's no end to reports from members of this forum who have played CM8000 >against all other programs (incl.CM.6000) in all kinds of settings (and other >tournaments, matches too), and It's ALWAYS showing CM8000 to be just TOOOO weak >to really get very far at all. >Why? is everyone trying so tirelessly to malign CM8000, one after the other, >without fail, and to say lies also? >S.Taylor On my machine Chessmaster 8000 has won tournaments with the likes of: Deep Fritz Junior 6 Hiarcs 7.32 Nimzo 8 Yace Crafty in it. ANd I do not mean just won, I mean crushingly. Mind you it has also done poorly, such as in a match against Deep Fritz on my machine using autoplayer, though not as bad as the SDDF. So comparitivly speaking, I would say that CM8k is not as strong as the other top commercials but it is still in that commercial strength bracket, that is, it is 50-100 points stronger then all but Crafty, Yace, and Little Goliath for the freeware engines. As to CM6k vs CM8k...you would need to do the moves manually between two computers before you could geta fair result as John Merlino has stated MANY times since the CM6k GUI itself steals cpu use. JW
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