Author: stuart taylor
Date: 00:40:25 05/20/01
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On May 19, 2001 at 22:49:21, Jason Williamson wrote: >On May 19, 2001 at 21:51:18, stuart taylor wrote: > >>On May 19, 2001 at 21:28:25, Eric Tom wrote: >> >>>On May 19, 2001 at 19:06:11, stuart taylor wrote: >>> >>>>On May 19, 2001 at 15:34:15, william penn wrote: >>>> >>>>>i suspect that cm6555 would still score among the top three, even against the >>>>>best and newest programs. Cm8000 is a rip-off since there is a noticable >>>>>decrease in strength from the previous more strong version 6000 >>>> >>>>On what do you base that? >>>>And is it stronger than 6000 or 7000? >>>> >>>>And if it is a rip off, can there be any compensation, or money-back? >>>> >>>>S.Taylor >>> >>>Compensation? Maybe the recent amazing personalities, such as CMUtzinger and >>>CMFun can compensate, I don't know. I've recently fell in love with >>>CM8_Bendorz. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Eric >> >>A clear weakening of playing strength makes it questionable as an "upgrade" in >>my opinion. >>All other extras and improvements should NEVER be at the expense of playing >>strength, Unless specifically made clear. If it's simply not improved, that's >>also not so good, but if it is EVEN WEAKER, then patches must patch up atleast >>that! >>I don't know if any other program was that much weaker than TWO upgrades >>earlier! >>S.Taylor > >SHOW STATISTICAL EDVIDENCE THAT IT IS WEAKER! You are just spouting off >opinions right now. Back it up. > >JW If you are involved with the company, I must be sounding quite wicked, which is not my intention. It's only my personal reaction to the money I spent on it, after having waited for as many improvements as possible to 6000 and 7000, necesarily including playing strength, and this was what I hoped to be the last year that I was going to buy chess programs at all, because I wanted to retire from the "buying new chess programs" part of my chess interests, in preparation of a later retirement from chess totally. And I thought that my last programs that I purchase should atleast be a landmark of the best achievements of chess programming till 2001, obviously including strength. And you say "back it up", but there have been countless reports on this forum. But I can understand how people involved with the company would just bite their lips at it and think, "well, it wasn't supervised and presented in an official way, so it must be just a dirty trick". But I have no reason to believe it's all dirty tricks, nor has it ever looked like they don't test fairly EVERY time. I wish I could see it backed up that even with opening books off, CM8000 is winning much more often against CM6000 and other programs. S.Taylor
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