Author: Jason Williamson
Date: 09:08:28 05/20/01
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On May 20, 2001 at 03:40:25, stuart taylor wrote: >On May 19, 2001 at 22:49:21, Jason Williamson wrote: > >>On May 19, 2001 at 21:51:18, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>On May 19, 2001 at 21:28:25, Eric Tom wrote: >>> >>>>On May 19, 2001 at 19:06:11, stuart taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 19, 2001 at 15:34:15, william penn wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>i suspect that cm6555 would still score among the top three, even against the >>>>>>best and newest programs. Cm8000 is a rip-off since there is a noticable >>>>>>decrease in strength from the previous more strong version 6000 >>>>> >>>>>On what do you base that? >>>>>And is it stronger than 6000 or 7000? >>>>> >>>>>And if it is a rip off, can there be any compensation, or money-back? >>>>> >>>>>S.Taylor >>>> >>>>Compensation? Maybe the recent amazing personalities, such as CMUtzinger and >>>>CMFun can compensate, I don't know. I've recently fell in love with >>>>CM8_Bendorz. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Eric >>> >>>A clear weakening of playing strength makes it questionable as an "upgrade" in >>>my opinion. >>>All other extras and improvements should NEVER be at the expense of playing >>>strength, Unless specifically made clear. If it's simply not improved, that's >>>also not so good, but if it is EVEN WEAKER, then patches must patch up atleast >>>that! >>>I don't know if any other program was that much weaker than TWO upgrades >>>earlier! >>>S.Taylor >> >>SHOW STATISTICAL EDVIDENCE THAT IT IS WEAKER! You are just spouting off >>opinions right now. Back it up. >> >>JW > >If you are involved with the company, I must be sounding quite wicked, which is >not my intention. It's only my personal reaction to the money I spent on it, >after having waited for as many improvements as possible to 6000 and 7000, >necesarily including playing strength, and this was what I hoped to be the last >year that I was going to buy chess programs at all, because I wanted to retire >from the "buying new chess programs" part of my chess interests, in preparation >of a later retirement from chess totally. And I thought that my last programs >that I purchase should atleast be a landmark of the best achievements of chess >programming till 2001, obviously including strength. > And you say "back it up", but there have been countless reports on this forum. >But I can understand how people involved with the company would just bite their >lips at it and think, "well, it wasn't supervised and presented in an official >way, so it must be just a dirty trick". But I have no reason to believe it's all >dirty tricks, nor has it ever looked like they don't test fairly EVERY time. > I wish I could see it backed up that even with opening books off, CM8000 is >winning much more often against CM6000 and other programs. >S.Taylor I am not involved with the company. JW
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