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Subject: Re: A New Deep Blue?

Author: Carsten Kossendey

Date: 04:08:31 04/24/98

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On April 24, 1998 at 04:12:32, Ernst A. Heinz wrote:

>On April 23, 1998 at 16:28:54, Frank E. Oldham wrote:
>
>>A recent BYTE article discussed the POWER3.  I was impressed by the
>>aggregate cache and memory bandwidth.  For example, the chip has a
>>256-bit L2 cache bus (compared to 64-bit for PCs and Macs).
>
>Most Alpha workstations (even the cheaper AlphaPC mainboards) have
>had 256bit buses between their CPUs, the external L2/L3 caches, and
>even the main memory *for years*.
>
>=Ernst=

If you look at the STREAM (memory bandwidth) benchmark results
(www.cs.virginia.edu/stream), it doesn't seem to help much ;)

Here's an excerpt from the list:

All results are in MB/s --- 1 MB=10^6 B, *not* 2^20 B

------------------------------------------------------------------
Machine ID                ncpus    COPY    SCALE      ADD    TRIAD
------------------------------------------------------------------
Cray_T94                     1  11341.0  10717.0  14783.0  13920.0

DEC_600au_600                1    227.7    223.0    243.5    248.2
DEC_164LX_533_2MBL3          1    241.5    234.4    267.4    256.0
DEC_164SX_533_2MBL3          1    273.1    256.0    292.6    292.6

IBM-SP_P2SC_120MHz-thin      1    690.6    684.6    787.2    786.8
IBM_RS6000-397               1    778.8    777.5    883.1    882.4
IBM_RS6000-595               1    620.9    650.5    660.7    689.5
IBM_RS6000-591               1    711.1    695.7    750.0    800.0

SGI_Origin_200               1    277.0    277.0    285.0    286.0

Sun_UE_10000                 1    164.0    164.0    202.0    202.0
Sun_UE_6001                  1    281.0    281.0    224.0    261.0
Sun_Ultra2-2200              1    228.5    227.5    258.9    189.9

Dell_PII_300                 1    188.2    173.0    213.3    188.2
HP_Kayak_PII_300             1    175.5    180.7    214.4    188.1
Gateway_2000_P6-200          1    107.9     89.5    100.5    101.6
Micron_P6-200                1     98.4     97.4    106.5    105.0

Apple_Mac_G3_266             1    137.1    128.0    137.1    137.1
------------------------------------------------------------------

It appears the Power2 SuperChip blows them Alphas (as well as most other
processors) by a factor 3 or so. Also take note of that T94 result -
other
Crays fare similarly good, except for the Alpha-based designs.



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