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Subject: Re: DPM "Double Ponder Move" problems with InBetween or CB Adapter ...

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 14:53:11 06/15/01

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On June 14, 2001 at 20:29:56, Brian Kostick wrote:

>On June 14, 2001 at 18:56:47, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>On June 14, 2001 at 18:44:23, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>>
>>>On June 14, 2001 at 18:12:01, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 14, 2001 at 17:46:01, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It's look perfectly right to me and the strength should not go down because the
>>>>>result is that he ponder on the right move.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well its look not quite right.
>>>>1.a3 e5 (ponder on e3, play d5 ponder on d4 ) It had been better to stay with
>>>>pondering on e3.
>>>>I see that Dieter Buerssner has an explanation thats support this.
>>>>
>>>>Odd Gunnar Malin
>>>
>>>Well its worse than that.
>>>This was what happend:
>>>1.a3 e5 (ponder e3 play d5 ponder d4 best move Nc6)
>>>2.e3 Nc6
>>>
>>>Wrong move Nc6 was after 2.e3 d5 3.d4 ** Nc6**
>>>
>>>The result is that it don't play the right move.
>>>
>>>Maybe its best to let the GUI do all pondering if its not possible to turn it
>>>off.
>>>
>>>go := hard\neasy\ngo
>>>So, no it will not ponder.
>>>
>>>Its possible that it is enough to turn of post so the GUI don't see the Nc6 from
>>>the above example.
>>>
>>>go := nopost\ngo
>>>
>>>Maybe all Winboard engine acts like this with posting his analysis.
>>>
>>>Odd Gunnar Malin
>>
>>Hi Odd,
>>
>>I believe my English is too bad to explain the mistake :-(
>>
>>Another:
>>
>>40 moves in 5 minutes with the *.init file from my News Ticker and the
>>InBetween.ini from my News Ticker. The King version 3.12 with
>>
>>A) WinBoard adapter from 23.11.00
>>
>>I make the first move ... 01. e3
>>The answere by TheKing is 01. ... e5
>>
>>Now I make not a move and looked only in the GUI which move TheKing analyses in
>>ponder mode:
>>
>>I saw:
>>
>>Ply 5 ... ply 6 ... ply 7 ... ply 8 ... ply 9 ... and here TheKing stoped with
>>permanent brain. In TaskInfo I can see 0% processor time.
>>
>>---------
>>
>>B) WinBoard adapter from 24.05.01
>>   (no changes in the configurtion)
>>
>>I make the first move ... 01. a3
>>The answere by TheKing is 01. ... e5
>>
>>Now I make not a move and looked only in the Fritz GUI which move TheKing found
>>in ponder mode:
>>
>>I saw:
>>
>>Ply 5 ... ply 6 ... ply 7 ... ply 8 ... ply 9 ... and here TheKing stoped
>>permanent brain and start permanent brain for black move 03 !!!!
>>
>>But I play not my white move 02 in the position after 01. a3 e5 ...
>>
>>Maybe it is a mistake in the WinBoard adapter from Chess-Base ... think so at
>>the moment !
>>
>>Best
>>Frank
>
>Frank, I'll try again to understand. Please don't shoot if you think I am thick!
>
>I think that the King believes that it is playing it's next move, not a true
>ponder. Then the King thinks that it's time to move and the ponder stops (or gos
>to the next move). I say this because the ponder time seems to depend on the
>current time control setting. Would you say this is a decent description of
>what's happening?  Regards, BK

Hi,

yes, this is correct.
And all this befor I make my move. I must make white move 2 and befor I make my
move TheKing is in permanent brain for move black move 3 and not for black move
2.

Best
Frank



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