Author: Chessfun
Date: 21:30:14 06/25/01
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On June 25, 2001 at 20:44:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On June 25, 2001 at 14:40:05, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On June 25, 2001 at 11:47:52, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On June 25, 2001 at 10:24:08, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >>> >>>>On June 25, 2001 at 10:11:20, Ralf Elvsén wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 25, 2001 at 09:03:27, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"Now" I played this curious game. Why this? ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>>Have fun. :) >>>>>> >>>>>>Nemeth,E - Crafty 18.10 (with trojan check) [B20] >>>>>>Stufe=Blitz:10'. Stuttgart, 25.06.2001 >>>>>> >>>>>> 58MB, General.ctg. P600 >>>>>> 1.e4 c5 2.e5 Sc6 0.05/10 17 3.f4 d6 -0.01/11 16 4.Sf3 dxe5 0.00/9 14 >>>>>>5.fxe5 a6 0.08/9 13 6.Sc3 Dc7 0.00/9 16 7.Sd5 Dd8 0.00/10 10 8.Sc3 Dc7 >>>>>>0.00/10 29 9.Sd5 Dd8 0.00/11 12 10.Sc3 ½-½ >>>>>> >>>>>>Endposition: >>>>>> >>>>>>[D]r1bqkbnr/1p2pppp/p1n5/2p1P3/8/2N2N2/PPPP2PP/R1BQKB1R b KQkq - >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>[Event "Blitz:10'"] >>>>>>[Site "Stuttgart"] >>>>>>[Date "2001.06.25"] >>>>>>[Round "?"] >>>>>>[White "Nemeth,Eduard"] >>>>>>[Black "Crafty 18.10"] >>>>>>[ECO "B20"] >>>>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"] >>>>>> >>>>>>1. e4 {0} c5 {0} 2. e5 {4} Nc6 {0.05/10 17} 3. f4 {3} d6 >>>>>>{-0.01/11 17} 4. Nf3 {2} dxe5 {0.00/9 14} 5. fxe5 {2} a6 >>>>>>{0.08/9 14} 6. Nc3 {4} Qc7 {0.00/9 17} 7. Nd5 {4} Qd8 >>>>>>{0.00/10 11} 8. Nc3 {2} Qc7 {0.00/10 29} 9. Nd5 {2} Qd8 >>>>>>{0.00/11 12} 10. Nc3 {2} 1/2-1/2 >>>>>> >>>>>>Eduard >>>>> >>>>>I guess you had the contempt factor set to zero. To make Crafty >>>>>show you the contempt you deserve, set it to e.g. -20 or -30 :) >>>>>(centipawns if I remember it right) >>>>> >>>>>Ralf >>>> >>>>Hi! >>>> >>>>Yes, what You say is right. But contempt for Crafty 18.10 is "standard" >>>>on Zero. Why this?? >>>> >>>>Eduard >>> >>> >>>The main reason is SSDF testing and others playing comp vs comp matches. If >>>crafty doesn't know it is playing a computer, it won't know to set the contempt >>>to 0.00 (which is what I _always_ use in comp vs comp games). It is safer to >>>set it to 0 as the default, and then tell humans to set it correctly. And on >>>a chess server it is dynamically set when xboard/winboard tells crafty the >>>opponent's server rating... >> >>Is there something wrong with using the rating of the opponent for the contempt >>also when the opponent is a computer? >> >>I think that you are not going to be happy with a draw against a computer >>program when the program is weaker and Crafty plays against programs that are >>clearly weaker then it because of hardware and software. >> >>Uri > > >I simply don't believe it is "safe". I can't think of _any_ program I would >like to give a .3 positional edge to, and assume I can overcome that and draw >or win the game. > >I used to do this, but it because pretty obvious it is a bad idea... I think your right. I don't know of any program that is prepared to give away anything. I have a few simple line with Ct.ini that Tiger will always take as a draw. Naturally against me he should look for something better but against another program is to risky IMO. Sarah.
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