Author: Howard Exner
Date: 02:20:54 05/05/98
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On May 04, 1998 at 18:53:37, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >On May 04, 1998 at 17:50:34, Howard Exner wrote: > >>On May 04, 1998 at 16:34:44, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >> >>>On May 04, 1998 at 15:37:39, Howard Exner wrote: >>> >>>>On May 04, 1998 at 11:22:28, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>>> >>>>>4 - The fact that ChessBase can tune their engines and books against the >>>>>opposition without allowing the other programmers to do the same, gives >>>>>ChessBase an obvious advantage. >>>> >>>>>Point 4) is, I think, the troublemaker, the only real one. I see two >>>>>ways to solve it: >>>>>a - ChessBase releases the autoplayer Fritz 5. >>>>>b - Other programmers follow the example and release auto232 versions >>>>>only for the SSDF. >>>> >>>>How would point b work? >>> >>>The same way it works now. >> >>My understanding of the way it works now is that just one program is >>using its exclusive autotester. Your point is that other programs do >>this so my question remains - how will it work if all say, "use only >>my autotester". > >I didn't say that. Imagine Rebel disables auto232 for the public, so >competitors won't get it, and enables it only for the SSDF... Bad, I >know. That's why it is much better if the autoplayer Fritz 5 is released >commercially. Ok I think I'm grasping this a bit better. I thought that Fritz supplied SSDF with its very own autotester (thus my confusion in wondering how the programs could compete if all followed suite). So if I've got this right Rebel would do what Fritz has done - disable auto32 for the public within the chess program except for SSDF. > >As things are now, it seems some new programs won't be capable of >autoplaying at all. > >Enrique > >> For example if Bruce sends Ferret and says you must only >>test Ferret with the new Ferret-Auto X and I send them my program and >>say >>you must only use Howard-Auto Y then the two programs will never play >>given >>those specifications. Forgive me if I am missing something obvious. >>> >>>Enrique >>> >>>> If Fritz says only use my autoplayer and >>>>Genius says only use my autoplayer they would never play each other. >>>>I can't see how other programs can follow the Fritz requirement as >>>>no testing could be done. It has to be a universal autoplayer that all >>>>agree to. Why didn't Fritz use the standard autoplayer? Is the reasoning >>>>that other programs will autotest and find weaknesses? So what, since >>>>Fritz could then again improve its program in the next generation. In a >>>>sense >>>>it could thank the other programmers for finding and exploiting the >>>>weaknesses >>>>and in turn become even better.
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