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Subject: Re: SSDF rating list soon history?

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 15:53:37 05/04/98

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On May 04, 1998 at 17:50:34, Howard Exner wrote:

>On May 04, 1998 at 16:34:44, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On May 04, 1998 at 15:37:39, Howard Exner wrote:
>>
>>>On May 04, 1998 at 11:22:28, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>>
>>>>4 - The fact that ChessBase can tune their engines and books against the
>>>>opposition without allowing the other programmers to do the same, gives
>>>>ChessBase an obvious advantage.
>>>
>>>>Point 4) is, I think, the troublemaker, the only real one. I see two
>>>>ways to solve it:
>>>>a - ChessBase releases the autoplayer Fritz 5.
>>>>b - Other programmers follow the example and release auto232 versions
>>>>only for the SSDF.
>>>
>>>How would point b work?
>>
>>The same way it works now.
>
>My understanding of the way it works now is that just one program is
>using its exclusive autotester. Your point is that other programs do
>this so my question remains - how will it work if all say, "use only
>my autotester".

I didn't say that. Imagine Rebel disables auto232 for the public, so
competitors won't get it, and enables it only for the SSDF... Bad, I
know. That's why it is much better if the autoplayer Fritz 5 is released
commercially.

As things are now, it seems some new programs won't be capable of
autoplaying at all.

Enrique

> For example if Bruce sends Ferret and says you must only
>test Ferret with the new Ferret-Auto X and I send them my program and
>say
>you must only use Howard-Auto Y then the two programs will never play
>given
>those specifications. Forgive me if I am missing something obvious.
>>
>>Enrique
>>
>>> If Fritz says only use my autoplayer and
>>>Genius says only use my autoplayer they would never play each other.
>>>I can't see how other programs can follow the Fritz requirement as
>>>no testing could be done. It has to be a universal autoplayer that all
>>>agree to. Why didn't Fritz use the standard autoplayer? Is the reasoning
>>>that other programs will autotest and find weaknesses? So what, since
>>>Fritz could then again improve its program in the next generation. In a
>>>sense
>>>it could thank the other programmers for finding and exploiting the
>>>weaknesses
>>>and in turn become even better.



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