Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 13:08:46 07/15/01
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On July 15, 2001 at 14:00:56, odell hall wrote: >On July 15, 2001 at 13:00:17, Terry McCracken wrote: > >>On July 15, 2001 at 12:39:43, odell hall wrote: >> >>>On July 15, 2001 at 10:57:47, Terry McCracken wrote: >>> >>>>On July 15, 2001 at 07:58:10, odell hall wrote: >>>> >>>>>Don't do what you did on the Van Diel Wiel match and Renig, you said if rebel >>>>>beat Van Der Wiel then computers are GM's , But you back out. >>>> >>>>First Dr. Hyatt is away for a week. So he won't even see you message! Didn't you >>>>read he was off for a holiday? >>> >>> >>> No, I didn't , But I am sure he atleast took a laptop with him. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Second, GM John van der Wiel played a very short match with Rebel Century, and >>>>the first time he'd ever lost a match to computer, and that was by a mere point. >>> >>> Your Wrong it was by two points, but our of "respect" or Perhaps "Charity" Ed >>>gave him a Draw by he was completley Lost. the score should have been 4-2, a >>>Crush!! >>>> >>> >>>>GM John van der Wiel is an excellent player but not a 2600+ GM, at least not at >>>>present. Yet he could turn a second match with Rebel Century around I'm sure. >>>>Not putting down Rebel, it's an excellent chess program, but not a World Class >>>>GM 2600+, at least not yet!;) >>> >>> >>>Because you are sure, doesn't mean that it is a Fact, it is Empty Speculation, >>>the same as me saying Kasparov in a return match would beat Deepblue, that >>>doesn't make it true, it is just a "belief" >>> >>> >>>>Third, GM Huebner isn't a young man anymore, so I doubt he can play like he is! >>>> >>> >>> >>>I suspect you think he will lose so you are preparing an excuse before hand? You >>>are a Good student of Dr. Hyatt i can see. But the Truth is Huebner is still >>>extremely strong since he is Maintaining a 2600 elo, which is stronger than 99% >>>of Grandmasters in America!!! Old doesn't neccecarily mean Weak, so whats your >>>point? >>> >>> >>>>Forth, do you know more than Professor Hyatt? Are you a programmer? Better yet >>>>are you a GM?? >>> >>> >>> >>>Depends on what your referring to, I know alot more than Professor Hyatt in >>>Certain Areas, as far as Computer Chess and the Strength of Programs it is an >>>area that all of us are guessing at, but the evidence is pointing to the fact >>>that computers are GM's, if Dr. Hyatt was as Smart as you think, he would >>>believe the evidence that is before his eyes, instead of being an Arrogant Son >>>of a Biscuit eater, for him it's more important not to be wrong, then to admit >>>the truth. I don't respect people with this type of EGO. by the way I don't have >>>to be a programmer to be right in what I am saying, all I have to do is look at >>>the Evidence and ACCEPT IT. By the way, there are many programmers here who >>>believe Hyatt is full of S--t. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>I don't know anything about you odell hall with the exception, you could show a >>>>little more respect! >>> >>> >>>Why should I respect someone who lies, because he doesn't want to look stupid, I >>>don't use Crafty, so I have no reason to worship hyatt, he is simply an ordinary >>>person to me. What should I respect about hyatt?? What has he accomplished that >>>has you so obviously enthralled?? >>> >>> >>> >>>>As for the todays' game GM Huebner played Black and brought about a draw on move >>>>23! >>> >>> >>> Ok make sure you talk to me after the match, there are alot of games, but i >>>would think that a 2400 player as your idol (Dr Hyatt)asserts computers are, >>>would not even be able to accomplish a draw. >>>> >>>>So we'll see for fun how the rest of the very short match will go;) Myself, I >>>>don't think tiny matches such as these have any great value in determining >>>>whether a program has reached the GM level, only that these programs can give a >>>>GM a good fight, and may win from time to time. >>>> >>>>Give both technology and programming another 5 years and I believe by then we'll >>>>have _solid_ GM 2600+ chess playing monsters! >>>> >>>>Terry >>> >>> >>> Terry I don't know you and have nothing against you, but you should put no MAN, >>>on the pedestal that you put hyatt, think for yourself, act for yourself, grow >>>up, use your eyes, your mind, your sight! >>> >>> "My people have ears to hear but they hear not, eyes to see but they see not" >>> >>> (quote from the bible) >> >>First you odell are making speculatons and drawing faulty conclusions! >> >>Crap!; You're right off in left field! >> >>Now I know what you are, a *TROLL*! >> >>Go drop your _line_ in some other _lake_, or better yet go jump into one! >> >>TM > > > Terry tell your wife i left my shoes under the bed, ok? Thank you for proving my point! TM
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