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Subject: Re: No more Excuses Dr. Hyatt, you said if Fritz beats Huebner then C =GM

Author: odell hall

Date: 11:00:56 07/15/01

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On July 15, 2001 at 13:00:17, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On July 15, 2001 at 12:39:43, odell hall wrote:
>
>>On July 15, 2001 at 10:57:47, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On July 15, 2001 at 07:58:10, odell hall wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don't do what you did on the Van Diel Wiel match and Renig, you said if rebel
>>>>beat Van Der Wiel then computers are GM's , But you back out.
>>>
>>>First Dr. Hyatt is away for a week. So he won't even see you message! Didn't you
>>>read he was off for a holiday?
>>
>>
>> No, I didn't , But I am sure he atleast took a laptop with him.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Second, GM John van der Wiel played a very short match with Rebel Century, and
>>>the first time he'd ever lost a match to computer, and that was by a mere point.
>>
>> Your Wrong it was by two points, but our of "respect" or Perhaps "Charity" Ed
>>gave him a Draw by he was completley Lost. the score should have been 4-2, a
>>Crush!!
>>>
>>
>>>GM John van der Wiel is an excellent player but not a 2600+ GM, at least not at
>>>present. Yet he could turn a second match with Rebel Century around I'm sure.
>>>Not putting down Rebel, it's an excellent chess program, but not a World Class
>>>GM 2600+, at least not yet!;)
>>
>>
>>Because you are sure, doesn't mean that it is a Fact, it is Empty Speculation,
>>the same as me saying Kasparov in a return match would beat Deepblue, that
>>doesn't make it true, it is just a "belief"
>>
>>
>>>Third, GM Huebner isn't a young man anymore, so I doubt he can play like he is!
>>>
>>
>>
>>I suspect you think he will lose so you are preparing an excuse before hand? You
>>are a Good student of Dr. Hyatt i can see. But the Truth is Huebner is still
>>extremely strong since he is Maintaining a 2600 elo, which is stronger than 99%
>>of Grandmasters in America!!! Old doesn't neccecarily mean Weak, so whats your
>>point?
>>
>>
>>>Forth, do you know more than Professor Hyatt? Are you a programmer? Better yet
>>>are you a GM??
>>
>>
>>
>>Depends on what your referring to, I know alot more than Professor Hyatt in
>>Certain Areas, as far as Computer Chess and the Strength of Programs it is an
>>area that all of us are guessing at, but the evidence is pointing to the fact
>>that computers are GM's, if Dr. Hyatt was as Smart as you think, he would
>>believe the evidence that is before his eyes, instead of being an Arrogant Son
>>of a Biscuit eater, for him it's more important not to be wrong, then to admit
>>the truth. I don't respect people with this type of EGO. by the way I don't have
>>to be a programmer to be right in what I am saying, all I have to do is look at
>>the Evidence and ACCEPT IT. By the way, there are many programmers here who
>>believe Hyatt is full of S--t.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>I don't know anything about you odell hall with the exception, you could show a
>>>little more respect!
>>
>>
>>Why should I respect someone who lies, because he doesn't want to look stupid, I
>>don't use Crafty, so I have no reason to worship hyatt, he is simply an ordinary
>>person to me. What should I respect about hyatt?? What has he accomplished that
>>has you so obviously enthralled??
>>
>>
>>
>>>As for the todays' game GM Huebner played Black and brought about a draw on move
>>>23!
>>
>>
>> Ok make sure you talk to me after the match, there are alot of games, but i
>>would think that a 2400 player as your idol (Dr Hyatt)asserts computers are,
>>would not even be able to accomplish a draw.
>>>
>>>So we'll see for fun how the rest of the very short match will go;) Myself, I
>>>don't think tiny matches such as these have any great value in determining
>>>whether a program has reached the GM level, only that these programs can give a
>>>GM a good fight, and may win from time to time.
>>>
>>>Give both technology and programming another 5 years and I believe by then we'll
>>>have _solid_ GM 2600+ chess playing monsters!
>>>
>>>Terry
>>
>>
>> Terry I don't know you and have nothing against you, but you should put no MAN,
>>on the pedestal that you put hyatt, think for yourself, act for yourself, grow
>>up, use your eyes, your mind, your sight!
>>
>> "My people have ears to hear but they hear not, eyes to see but they see not"
>>
>>  (quote from the bible)
>
>First you odell are making speculatons and drawing faulty conclusions!
>
>Crap!; You're right off in left field!
>
>Now I know what you are, a *TROLL*!
>
>Go drop your _line_ in some other _lake_, or better yet go jump into one!
>
>TM


 Terry tell your wife i left my shoes under the bed, ok?



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