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Subject: Re: No more Excuses Dr. Hyatt, you said if Fritz beats Huebner then C =GM

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 10:00:17 07/15/01

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On July 15, 2001 at 12:39:43, odell hall wrote:

>On July 15, 2001 at 10:57:47, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On July 15, 2001 at 07:58:10, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>>Don't do what you did on the Van Diel Wiel match and Renig, you said if rebel
>>>beat Van Der Wiel then computers are GM's , But you back out.
>>
>>First Dr. Hyatt is away for a week. So he won't even see you message! Didn't you
>>read he was off for a holiday?
>
>
> No, I didn't , But I am sure he atleast took a laptop with him.
>
>
>>
>>Second, GM John van der Wiel played a very short match with Rebel Century, and
>>the first time he'd ever lost a match to computer, and that was by a mere point.
>
> Your Wrong it was by two points, but our of "respect" or Perhaps "Charity" Ed
>gave him a Draw by he was completley Lost. the score should have been 4-2, a
>Crush!!
>>
>
>>GM John van der Wiel is an excellent player but not a 2600+ GM, at least not at
>>present. Yet he could turn a second match with Rebel Century around I'm sure.
>>Not putting down Rebel, it's an excellent chess program, but not a World Class
>>GM 2600+, at least not yet!;)
>
>
>Because you are sure, doesn't mean that it is a Fact, it is Empty Speculation,
>the same as me saying Kasparov in a return match would beat Deepblue, that
>doesn't make it true, it is just a "belief"
>
>
>>Third, GM Huebner isn't a young man anymore, so I doubt he can play like he is!
>>
>
>
>I suspect you think he will lose so you are preparing an excuse before hand? You
>are a Good student of Dr. Hyatt i can see. But the Truth is Huebner is still
>extremely strong since he is Maintaining a 2600 elo, which is stronger than 99%
>of Grandmasters in America!!! Old doesn't neccecarily mean Weak, so whats your
>point?
>
>
>>Forth, do you know more than Professor Hyatt? Are you a programmer? Better yet
>>are you a GM??
>
>
>
>Depends on what your referring to, I know alot more than Professor Hyatt in
>Certain Areas, as far as Computer Chess and the Strength of Programs it is an
>area that all of us are guessing at, but the evidence is pointing to the fact
>that computers are GM's, if Dr. Hyatt was as Smart as you think, he would
>believe the evidence that is before his eyes, instead of being an Arrogant Son
>of a Biscuit eater, for him it's more important not to be wrong, then to admit
>the truth. I don't respect people with this type of EGO. by the way I don't have
>to be a programmer to be right in what I am saying, all I have to do is look at
>the Evidence and ACCEPT IT. By the way, there are many programmers here who
>believe Hyatt is full of S--t.
>
>
>>
>>I don't know anything about you odell hall with the exception, you could show a
>>little more respect!
>
>
>Why should I respect someone who lies, because he doesn't want to look stupid, I
>don't use Crafty, so I have no reason to worship hyatt, he is simply an ordinary
>person to me. What should I respect about hyatt?? What has he accomplished that
>has you so obviously enthralled??
>
>
>
>>As for the todays' game GM Huebner played Black and brought about a draw on move
>>23!
>
>
> Ok make sure you talk to me after the match, there are alot of games, but i
>would think that a 2400 player as your idol (Dr Hyatt)asserts computers are,
>would not even be able to accomplish a draw.
>>
>>So we'll see for fun how the rest of the very short match will go;) Myself, I
>>don't think tiny matches such as these have any great value in determining
>>whether a program has reached the GM level, only that these programs can give a
>>GM a good fight, and may win from time to time.
>>
>>Give both technology and programming another 5 years and I believe by then we'll
>>have _solid_ GM 2600+ chess playing monsters!
>>
>>Terry
>
>
> Terry I don't know you and have nothing against you, but you should put no MAN,
>on the pedestal that you put hyatt, think for yourself, act for yourself, grow
>up, use your eyes, your mind, your sight!
>
> "My people have ears to hear but they hear not, eyes to see but they see not"
>
>  (quote from the bible)

First you odell are making speculatons and drawing faulty conclusions!

Crap!; You're right off in left field!

Now I know what you are, a *TROLL*!

Go drop your _line_ in some other _lake_, or better yet go jump into one!

TM



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