Author: CLiebert
Date: 04:27:10 07/21/01
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On July 20, 2001 at 16:47:29, Dann Corbit wrote: >On July 20, 2001 at 04:13:44, CLiebert wrote: >[snip] >>OK I understand your point. But would you admitt that thinking like this would >>mean that every development in computerchess-engines could be canceled, because >>nobody asks for the progress of a new tiger, shredder oder fritz?! > >No. People will still buy the top SSDF program which is 2 ELO better than its >opponent with an error bar of +/-35 ELO without even looking at the features. >So then they can say they have the "strongest" program. And nobody is going to >sit still. If development on the professional engines stopped, eventually the >amateurs would pass them. I think there will always be a gap between the >professional engines and the amateur engines for 3 reasons: >1. The professionals get to spend a lot more time developing >2. The data in the form of opening books will always be better because amateurs >are not capable of assembling a professional quality opening book >3. Most amateur innovations are openly discussed and most profesional >innovations are kept secret. Some profis are only profis via definition, like Ban or Uniacke f. ex.! "I think there will always be a gap between the professional engines and the amateur engines..." That´s what I have written before, I agree! There is still a difference for different reasons. One might be forgotten always: may be they are still better - working harder is one point, having more talent another, isn´t it ... ?! Regards Christian >>This isn´t my opinion, because every progress is still faszinating. As well as >>the differnce of 100-150 Elo between amateurs and profis. > >I agree with this assessment. > >>Few years ago I played simultan against GM Matthias Wahls in Hamburg (ok, I lost >>quite fast, not my day...) and we talked about chess and elos. I asked him what >>it means if he has to play against a player who is rated 50 elo points higher >>than himself. He said "50 Elopoints are world but I woud try the best"... > >Even so, you will get a lot of goodwill generated by fixing the "flush the >toilet" bug. Again: it´s up to CB to do this, not to me!
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