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Subject: Re: Congratulation for chesstiger( probably right, but too early)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 10:09:01 08/24/01

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On August 24, 2001 at 07:06:51, Uri Blass wrote:

>Here are the results by
>elostat program
>
>You can see that shredder is only 3th place micro based on the performance.
>Shredder is the world Micro champion by definition but Tiger and Rebel had a
>better performance.
>
>
>1 Deep Junior 7                  : 2745  228 281     9    88.9 %   2384   22.2 %
>2 Quest (DeepFritz)              : 2550  266 169     9    66.7 %   2430   44.4 %
>3 Chess Tiger 14.6 Gambit Tiger  : 2499  291 229     9    55.6 %   2461   22.2 %
>4 Crafty 18.10X                  : 2467  291 165     9    55.6 %   2428   44.4 %
>5 Rebel                          : 2466  291 229     9    55.6 %   2428   22.2 %
>6 Shredder                       : 2466  266 249     9    66.7 %   2346   22.2 %
>7 Goliath                        : 2421  291 165     9    55.6 %   2382   44.4 %
>8 Gromit 3.9.5                   : 2364  278 201     9    61.1 %   2285   33.3 %
>9 Ferret                         : 2359  291 229     9    55.6 %   2320   22.2
>%10 Gandalf 5.0                   : 2310  291 229     9    55.6 %   2271   22.2
>%
>11 ParSOS                        : 2256  291 229     9    55.6 %   2217   22.2 %
>12 Diep                          : 2227  165 291     9    44.4 %   2265   44.4 %
>13 IsiChess X                    : 2166  201 278     9    38.9 %   2245   33.3 %
>14 Tao                           : 2165  229 291     9    44.4 %   2203   22.2 %
>15 Ruy Lopez                     : 2118  366 266     9    33.3 %   2238    0.0 %
>16 Pharaon                       : 2082  169 266     9    33.3 %   2202   44.4 %
>17 SpiderGirl                    : 2014  213 255     9    27.8 %   2180   33.3 %
>18 XiNiX                         : 1724  400 108     9     5.6 %   2216   11.1 %
>
>congratulation also for the Deep Junior team for winning the event convincingly
>when the difference from the second place is almost 200 elo and the hardware
>explain less than 70 elo difference.
>
>Uri

Here is the rating without one game Junior7-Ruy lopez
It seems that the program is not correct

Junior won the game against Ruy lopez but without the game against Ruy lopez
Junior has bigger rating when Ruy lopez has lower rating.

It is not logical.
It seems that I have to build my program

I already did it in the past for a private case correctly and programs cannot
lose rating from winning games unless I have some logical error.

I am surprised to see that programmers do correctly
the hard part of the program(doing it for the general case and not only for a
private case) and are wrong in the easy part(calculating elo based on the
results until conversion).

I still believe that tiger has a better performance but I am not sure.
It was my impression before reading the results without running the program.

Note that the difference between tiger and shredder is 36 points without the
game Junior-Ruy lopez and  33 points with this game so it seems that deleting
the game that is more accurate than including it with negative influence on
Junior only increase the difference.

1 Deep Junior 7                  : 2760  262 274     8    87.5 %   2422   25.0 %
2 Quest (DeepFritz)              : 2556  266 169     9    66.7 %   2436   44.4 %
3 Chess Tiger 14.6 Gambit Tiger  : 2506  291 229     9    55.6 %   2467   22.2 %
4 Crafty 18.10X                  : 2473  291 165     9    55.6 %   2434   44.4 %
5 Rebel                          : 2473  291 229     9    55.6 %   2434   22.2 %
6 Shredder                       : 2468  266 249     9    66.7 %   2348   22.2 %
7 Goliath                        : 2423  291 165     9    55.6 %   2384   44.4 %
8 Gromit 3.9.5                   : 2369  278 201     9    61.1 %   2291   33.3 %
9 Ferret                         : 2363  291 229     9    55.6 %   2324   22.2 %
10 Gandalf 5.0                   : 2311  291 229     9    55.6 %   2272   22.2 %
11 ParSOS                        : 2259  291 229     9    55.6 %   2220   22.2 %
12 Diep                          : 2230  165 291     9    44.4 %   2269   44.4 %
13 IsiChess X                    : 2167  201 278     9    38.9 %   2245   33.3 %
14 Tao                           : 2165  229 291     9    44.4 %   2204   22.2 %
15 Ruy Lopez                     : 2087  387 310     8    37.5 %   2176    0.0 %
16 Pharaon                       : 2081  169 266     9    33.3 %   2201   44.4 %
17 SpiderGirl                    : 2013  213 255     9    27.8 %   2179   33.3 %
18 XiNiX                         : 1723  400 108     9     5.6 %   2216   11.1 %

Uri



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