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Subject: Re: Wanted: Deep Blue vs. today's top programs recap

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 18:27:32 08/25/01

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On August 25, 2001 at 20:47:44, Mig Greengard wrote:

>Sorry to dredge this up yet again, and ignore this rather than turn it into a
>flame war or something worse. I know feelings on this topic can run hot.
>
>Although we do not have enough of Deep Blue's games to make anywhere near an
>accurate assessment of its chess strength, I am requesting a summary of thoughts
>on how today's top programs measure up on a science level. In the past I've seen
>some admirably objective breakdowns on this topic from Bob Hyatt and a few
>others, but did not save them.
>
>Put Deep Fritz, or other top programs, on the best available platform on which
>they can run, and I imagine this is what they will have in Bahrain, and knowing
>what we do about DB, what comparisons can we make?
>
>Subjective arguments (chess knowledge in particular) are also welcome, but
>should be concise as opposed to argumentative!
>
>Thanks, Mig
>
>Editor-in-chief
>http://www.kasparovchess.com

Expect great foolishness on both sides of the fence.
You will hear:
The best chess engine of all time (my position, but I may very well be wrong)
You will hear:
"My amateur engine could beat its pants off"

Since we don't have access to Deep Blue, it is all pure speculation.  The answer
to all of our questions about Deep Blue is rooted in data.  Data is what is
missing, so we really have no answers.

To look at a game and say:
"By looking at the quality of this move, I recognize that Deep Blue is sheer
genius!"
You might be looking at the output of a BUG in the software.

We might puzzle mightily at some move that looks dumb.  "Look at this boneheaded
move!"
But Deep Blue saw something all the null movers trim out, and would not see if
they ran their programs for a year.

In short, if you expect reliable responses that have scientific value, don't
hold your breath.  On the other hand, you should get plenty of stuff if you are
interested in "Yellow Journalism."
;-)




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