Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Wanted: Deep Blue vs. today's top programs recap

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 05:13:21 08/26/01

Go up one level in this thread


On August 26, 2001 at 08:00:36, Uri Blass wrote:

>On August 26, 2001 at 06:43:00, Janosch Zwerensky wrote:
>
>>
>>>(...)
>>>Put Deep Fritz, or other top programs, on the best available platform on which
>>>they can run, and I imagine this is what they will have in Bahrain, and knowing
>>>what we do about DB, what comparisons can we make?
>>
>>I think that, if you want to get such comparisons, you'd best try asking people
>>who have actually played any number of games worth mentioning against Deep Blue
>>II. To my knowledge, there are such people - IM Benjamin would be an example, as
>>well as possibly GM Illescas - and I'd guess it is safe to say that they also
>>have some experience concerning the strength of play of top commercial chess
>>programs today.
>>If you'd be able to get a statement from them, I'd be very interested to read
>>about it. If no information on DB is available from these or comparable sources,
>>I'd guess we can do nothing more than look at DB's hardware advantage and
>>conclude that it probably was a lot stronger than is any chess playing machine
>>today.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Janosch.
>
>This is not my conclusion.
>There are logfiles and we can get impressions which program is better based on
>the logfiles.
>
>Deeper blue was a union of hardware and software.
>
>You cannot conclude from one part(hardware) about the level of the all thing.
>We also do not know the exact details about the hardware.
>
>number of nodes per second is not enough to know how much it is faster than the
>programs of today.
>
>Deeper blue did not use hash tables in the last plies and the demage from not
>using hash tables should be also be considered when we try to estimate the speed
>difference.
>
>There are also other problems.
>
>Uri

Yes like it didn't use nullmove and was massive parallel.



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.