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Subject: Re: Wanted: Deep Blue vs. today's top programs recap

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:00:36 08/26/01

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On August 26, 2001 at 06:43:00, Janosch Zwerensky wrote:

>
>>(...)
>>Put Deep Fritz, or other top programs, on the best available platform on which
>>they can run, and I imagine this is what they will have in Bahrain, and knowing
>>what we do about DB, what comparisons can we make?
>
>I think that, if you want to get such comparisons, you'd best try asking people
>who have actually played any number of games worth mentioning against Deep Blue
>II. To my knowledge, there are such people - IM Benjamin would be an example, as
>well as possibly GM Illescas - and I'd guess it is safe to say that they also
>have some experience concerning the strength of play of top commercial chess
>programs today.
>If you'd be able to get a statement from them, I'd be very interested to read
>about it. If no information on DB is available from these or comparable sources,
>I'd guess we can do nothing more than look at DB's hardware advantage and
>conclude that it probably was a lot stronger than is any chess playing machine
>today.
>
>Regards,
>Janosch.

This is not my conclusion.
There are logfiles and we can get impressions which program is better based on
the logfiles.

Deeper blue was a union of hardware and software.

You cannot conclude from one part(hardware) about the level of the all thing.
We also do not know the exact details about the hardware.

number of nodes per second is not enough to know how much it is faster than the
programs of today.

Deeper blue did not use hash tables in the last plies and the demage from not
using hash tables should be also be considered when we try to estimate the speed
difference.

There are also other problems.

Uri



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