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Subject: Re: Wanted: Deep Blue vs. today's top programs recap

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 14:24:30 08/26/01

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On August 26, 2001 at 15:28:17, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On August 26, 2001 at 12:28:12, Peter Kappler wrote:
>
>>On August 26, 2001 at 10:21:55, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On August 26, 2001 at 08:19:21, David Blackman wrote:
>>>
>>>>Keep in mind there was a series of machines. ChipTest -> Deep Thought -> Deep
>>>>Thought 2 -> Deep Blue -> Deeper Blue. They were similar in some ways, very
>>>>different in others. It was Deeper Blue that finally beat Kasparov.
>>>>
>>>>Deeper Blue was significantly faster than Fritz running on any platform they are
>>>>likely to have this year.
>>>
>>>I would seriously doubt that Deeper Blue would be faster than Deep Fritz is.
>>
>>
>>DB searched 200 million nodes per second.  So the one thing that *is* completely
>>clear is that DB had a ridiculous speed advantage.
>>
>>
>>>only way to know this for certain would be, if we have a version of Deeper Blue
>>>converted to run on regular P.C.  Now the key factor is not just speed, but if
>>>we are going to compare programs alone; Deep Fritz, Deep Junior, Chess Tiger or
>>>Shredder have more Chess Knowledge than Deeper Blue.
>>>
>>>Pichard.
>>
>>
>>DB can't be converted to run on a PC? It is not just a piece of software that
>>can be compiled for a different platform.  This has been discussed here a
>>million times.  Check the archives - you'll find hundreds of threads.
>>
>>
>>-Peter


All that Hsu have to do is convert his Deeper Blue into todays hardware
standards and make it commercial, but I still doubt that his 1997 programming
chess knowledge will be better than the current one, unless Hsu has been keeping
up with the latest chess programming innovations.

>If this was 1991 when Schroeder Chess Machine was around, you probably would be
>saying that the codes could not be converted for P.C. but Schroeder did and
>developed his first P.C. chess program Mephisto Gideon.
>
>
>In 1991, our microcomputer program the Chess Machine was declared World Champion
>in the Micro tournament in Vancouver. But that was only the beginning! The next
>year, in Madrid, an improved version of Chess Machine won the World Champion
>title for ALL CLASSES. The mainframes' domination of computer chess was finally
>broken!
>
>In 1993, in cooperation with Hegener & Glaser, we released our first PC-based
>chess program, Mephisto Gideon.



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