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Subject: Re: Fine 70 same 7 engines (more)

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 22:18:48 09/14/01

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On September 14, 2001 at 16:30:36, Rafael Andrist wrote:

>On September 14, 2001 at 10:31:49, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 13, 2001 at 02:09:45, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>The opposition is a special case of coordinate squares.
>>>
>>>The theory of coordinate squares have existed since long before 1984.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>
>>
>>Didn't mean to imply otherwise.  Bratko was simply a pawn-ending expert that
>>worked with Danny.  He explained the idea behind "coordinate squares" to me
>>while we were discussing specific "anti-levy" ideas after we had lost the
>>first two games in classic anti-computer style.  We somehow got onto some
>>obscure endgame position in the discussion and he explained how this worked.
>>We then drifted to the endgame (K+P) solver Newborn had done, and the we
>>got to fine 70 and chess 4.x's 23 minute solution (newborn predicted his program
>>would take years to solve that one) and as Bratko showed how coordinate squares
>>were important there, I decided to play with it after the Levy match ended.
>>
>>I  always assumed the idea had been around for not just years, but hundreds of
>>years.  Just like opposition, distant opposition, etc.
>
>The idea of co-ordinated squares came up with a publication from Lasker 1901.
>BTW, the "Fine #70" is composed by him. The theory was developped mainly after
>the 2nd World War. I recommend you Averbakhs book about pawn endings. Even if
>you are not interested in implementing them in Crafty, there is lot of other
>useful stuff in this book.
>
>Rafael B. Andrist

The only problem is where to get that book!?  I have not seen a (used, of
course) copy for sale for 5+ years.

Dave



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