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Subject: Re: Fine 70 same 7 engines (more)

Author: Rafael Andrist

Date: 01:13:03 09/15/01

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On September 15, 2001 at 01:18:48, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>On September 14, 2001 at 16:30:36, Rafael Andrist wrote:
>
>>On September 14, 2001 at 10:31:49, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On September 13, 2001 at 02:09:45, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The opposition is a special case of coordinate squares.
>>>>
>>>>The theory of coordinate squares have existed since long before 1984.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>Didn't mean to imply otherwise.  Bratko was simply a pawn-ending expert that
>>>worked with Danny.  He explained the idea behind "coordinate squares" to me
>>>while we were discussing specific "anti-levy" ideas after we had lost the
>>>first two games in classic anti-computer style.  We somehow got onto some
>>>obscure endgame position in the discussion and he explained how this worked.
>>>We then drifted to the endgame (K+P) solver Newborn had done, and the we
>>>got to fine 70 and chess 4.x's 23 minute solution (newborn predicted his program
>>>would take years to solve that one) and as Bratko showed how coordinate squares
>>>were important there, I decided to play with it after the Levy match ended.
>>>
>>>I  always assumed the idea had been around for not just years, but hundreds of
>>>years.  Just like opposition, distant opposition, etc.
>>
>>The idea of co-ordinated squares came up with a publication from Lasker 1901.
>>BTW, the "Fine #70" is composed by him. The theory was developped mainly after
>>the 2nd World War. I recommend you Averbakhs book about pawn endings. Even if
>>you are not interested in implementing them in Crafty, there is lot of other
>>useful stuff in this book.
>>
>>Rafael B. Andrist
>
>The only problem is where to get that book!?  I have not seen a (used, of
>course) copy for sale for 5+ years.
>
>Dave

I bought it (new) some years ago in a book shop which was cleaning up the
archives. It was a german book printed in the DDR. I was such a fool - there
were two other endgame books by Averbakh which I missed to buy...

There are also some newer books on this topic around. On www.chessopolis.com you
can find a book review about a book "Secrets of Pawn Endings". I don't know it,
but according to the reviewer, the stuff about the co-ordinate squares is not
presented well.

Rafael B. Andrist




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