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Subject: Re: The new ChessBits Rating List available

Author: J.Dufek

Date: 22:55:02 09/14/01

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On September 14, 2001 at 15:08:22, Marcus Kaestner wrote:

>
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>>GANDALF CANNOT LOSE on the SIMILIAR HW with getting only 12.5% (from 72 games) -
>>yes, exist only one reason - cheating, or speed difference (gandalf running on
>>386? :-) ).Nothing top chessprogram cannot lose with this distance.
>>Sorry Marcus.
>
>of course it can.
>
>cheating?
>you must be out of your mind!
>
>do you think i would cheat in favour of shredder?
>do you think i would cheat in favour of a programmer who sues me with law-cases?
>
>if i would cheat (what i never would do), i would cheat in favour a programmer i
>like.
>
>do you really think anyone would cheat in favor a person which hates that one?
>
>come on, think clearly.
>
>marcus
Hi Marcus,
you don't need cheat.
But results in Chessbits list without support any game, without any HW
information, some engines play over 100 games with others, and with stronger
engines only few ....

(please think:
Challenger=Shredder 5
Shredder 5=Shredder 5 107
Explorer=Shredder 5    93

(1) Challenger : 282 (+124,= 93,- 65), 60.5 %

Shredder 5 : 107 (+ 32,= 49,- 26), 52.8 %
Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 10 (+ 3,= 3,- 4), 45.0 %
Explorer : 93 (+ 29,= 35,- 29), 50.0 %
Gandalf 4.32h : 72 (+ 60,= 6,- 6), 87.5 %

Chalenger (Shredder 5) played 200 from 282 games with Shredder 5 with about 52%
(good results :-) )  succes. And get rating only with Gandalf 4.32h.
No, no, no.
For really value you list for people as I am please remove all Shredder 5 games
and games from all "secret" engines (modifications).
This list, but without Shredder 5 will be more reallistic for me ....
Or make public avaliable games  played by Challenger and Explorer....
Do you think, all with Chessbits rating list it's OK?
best regards
Jirka



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