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Subject: Re: The new ChessBits Rating List available

Author: Marcus Kaestner

Date: 22:55:27 09/16/01

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hi jirka,


>you don't need cheat.

nice to hear...

>But results in Chessbits list without support any game, without any HW
>information, some engines play over 100 games with others, and with stronger
>engines only few ....

any chessbits-cd-subscriber has the games.

>
>(please think:
>Challenger=Shredder 5
>Shredder 5=Shredder 5 107
>Explorer=Shredder 5    93
>
>(1) Challenger : 282 (+124,= 93,- 65), 60.5 %
>
>Shredder 5 : 107 (+ 32,= 49,- 26), 52.8 %
>Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 10 (+ 3,= 3,- 4), 45.0 %
>Explorer : 93 (+ 29,= 35,- 29), 50.0 %
>Gandalf 4.32h : 72 (+ 60,= 6,- 6), 87.5 %
>
>Chalenger (Shredder 5) played 200 from 282 games with Shredder 5 with about 52%
>(good results :-) )  succes. And get rating only with Gandalf 4.32h.
>No, no, no.
>For really value you list for people as I am please remove all Shredder 5 games
>and games from all "secret" engines (modifications).

no, the list is based on all testing games we played the reviews in our
magazine. nobody wants (and have the time) to play exact the same amount of
games for each engine. that´s even impossible because we also get games from our
readers they got from their home-tiurnaments.

>This list, but without Shredder 5 will be more reallistic for me ....
>Or make public avaliable games  played by Challenger and Explorer....
>Do you think, all with Chessbits rating list it's OK?

in general yes. and also you make a big mistake:
the data you use is not the actual correct data.
meanwhile challenger has not 282 games, but 616 games, playing much more
opponents.

regards
marcus



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