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Subject: Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:40:31 09/16/01

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On September 15, 2001 at 18:37:06, Slater Wold wrote:

>On September 15, 2001 at 17:12:37, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>[D]8/p4bpk/7p/3rq3/3Npp2/PPQ3P1/3R1PKP/8 w - - 3 32
>
>Deep Fritz fails low on gxf4 in :54 seconds, but has a hard time replacing it.
>
>Deep Fritz T29c - W,S
>8/p4bpk/7p/3rq3/3Npp2/PPQ3P1/3R1PKP/8 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Deep Fritz T29c:
>
>1.gxf4
>  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>1.Kg1 fxg3
>  ³  (-0.44)   Depth: 2/14   00:00:00
>1.Rd1 f3+
>  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 2/14   00:00:00
>1.Rd1 f3+
>  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 2/14   00:00:00
>1.Rd1 f3+
>  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 2/14   00:00:00
>1.Rd1 f3+
>  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 2/14   00:00:00
>1.Rd1 f3+
>  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 2/14   00:00:00
>1.Rd1 f3+
>  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 2/14   00:00:00
>1.Rd1 f3+
>  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 2/14   00:00:00
>1.Rd1 Qh5 2.Qe1 f3+ 3.Kg1
>  ³  (-0.41)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00  3kN
>1.h3!
>  ³  (-0.37)   Depth: 3/15   00:00:00  4kN
>1.h3! f3+
>  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 3/15   00:00:00  5kN
>1.gxf4!
>  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 3/16   00:00:00  6kN
>1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Qg4+ 3.Qg3 Qh5
>  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 4/14   00:00:00  7kN
>1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Qg4+ 3.Qg3 Qh5 4.Kg1
>  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00  20kN
>1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Qg4+ 3.Qg3 Qh5 4.Kg1 a6
>  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 6/17   00:00:00  41kN
>1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Qg4+ 3.Qg3 Qh5 4.Qe3 Qg6+ 5.Qg3 Qf6
>  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 7/19   00:00:00  77kN
>1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kh1 Qg4 4.f4 exf3 5.Nxf3 Bd5
>  ³  (-0.37)   Depth: 8/22   00:00:00  163kN
>1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kh1 Qg4 4.f4 exf3 5.Nxf3 Bd5 6.Rf2
>  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 9/21   00:00:00  435kN
>1.gxf4--
>  ³  (-0.66)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:00  829kN
>1.gxf4-- Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kf1 Qxh2 4.Qxe4+ Bg6 5.Qe3 Re5 6.Qf3 Be4
>  µ  (-0.91)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:01  1322kN
>1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kf1 Qxh2 4.Qxe4+ Bg6 5.Qe3 Re5 6.Qf3 Be4
>  µ  (-0.78)   Depth: 11/28   00:00:10  10103kN
>1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kf1 Qxh2 4.Qxe4+ Bg6 5.Qe3 Rg1+ 6.Ke2 Qh5+
>  µ  (-0.87)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:15  14926kN
>1.gxf4--
>  µ  (-1.19)   Depth: 13/32   00:00:36  35237kN
>1.gxf4-- Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kh1 Qg4 4.f4 exf3 5.Qf2 Qf4 6.Nxf3 Bd5
>  -+  (-1.69)   Depth: 13/34   00:00:54  51719kN
>1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kh1 Qg4 4.f4 exf3 5.Qf2 Bd5 6.Rd1 Kg6
>  -+  (-1.78)   Depth: 14/34   00:03:06  176328kN
>1.gxf4--
>  -+  (-2.09)   Depth: 15/37   00:06:25  368131kN
>1.gxf4-- Qxf4 2.Kh1 Rg5 3.f3 Bh5 4.Rg2 exf3 5.Rxg5 f2 6.Qd3+ g6
>  -+  (-3.03)   Depth: 15/38   00:10:17  576496kN
>
>(W,  15.08.2001)

For comparison analysis of Deep Fritz on p800(64 Mbytes hash)
Deep Fritz searched for more than 10 hours at depth 17 but
it still looks at f3.

Note that Deep fritz finds fail low for gxf4 in less than 10 minutes
and it probably means that with the best hardware Deep Fritz can
find f3 at tournament time control.

New position
8/p4bpk/7p/3rq3/3Npp2/PPQ3P1/3R1PKP/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Fritz:

1.gxf4--
  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
1.gxf4--
  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
1.h3!
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
1.h3! f3+ 2.Kg1
  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
1.Kg1!
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
1.Kg1! fxg3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
1.Kg1 e3
  ³  (-0.44)   Depth: 2/14   00:00:00
1.Rd1!
  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 2/14   00:00:00
1.Rd1! f3+
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 2/14   00:00:00
1.Rd1 Qh5 2.Qe1 f3+ 3.Kg1
  ³  (-0.41)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00  3kN
1.h3!
  ³  (-0.37)   Depth: 3/15   00:00:00  4kN
1.h3! f3+
  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 3/15   00:00:00  5kN
1.gxf4!
  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 3/16   00:00:00  6kN
1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Qg4+ 3.Qg3 Qh5
  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 4/14   00:00:00  7kN
1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Qg4+ 3.Qg3 Qh5 4.Kg1
  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00  20kN
1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Qg4+ 3.Qg3 Qh5 4.Kg1 a6
  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 6/17   00:00:00  40kN
1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Qg4+ 3.Qg3 Qh5 4.Qe3 Qg6+ 5.Qg3 Qf6
  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 7/19   00:00:00  83kN
1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kh1 Qg4 4.f4 exf3 5.Nxf3 Bd5
  ³  (-0.37)   Depth: 8/23   00:00:00  152kN
1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kh1 Qg4 4.f4 exf3 5.Nxf3 Bd5 6.Rf2
  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 9/25   00:00:00  417kN
1.gxf4--
  ³  (-0.66)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:01  801kN
1.gxf4-- Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kf1 Qxh2 4.Qxe4+ Bg6 5.Qe3 Re5 6.Qf3 Be4
  µ  (-0.91)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:01  1262kN
1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kf1 Qxh2 4.Qxe4+ Bg6 5.Qe3 Re5 6.Qf3 Be4
  µ  (-0.78)   Depth: 11/30   00:00:13  9723kN
1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kf1 Qxh2 4.Qxe4+ Bg6 5.Qe3 Rg1+ 6.Ke2 Qh5+
  µ  (-0.87)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:20  14667kN
1.gxf4--
  µ  (-1.19)   Depth: 13/32   00:00:47  33715kN
1.gxf4-- Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kh1 Qg4 4.f4 exf3 5.Qf2 Qf4 6.Nxf3 Bd5
  -+  (-1.69)   Depth: 13/36   00:01:15  52680kN
1.gxf4 Qxf4 2.Qe3 Rg5+ 3.Kh1 Qg4 4.f4 exf3 5.Qf2 Bd5 6.Rd1 Kg6
  -+  (-1.78)   Depth: 14/35   00:04:39  199152kN
1.gxf4--
  -+  (-2.09)   Depth: 15/37   00:09:43  422090kN
1.gxf4-- Qxf4 2.Kh1 Rg5 3.f3 Bh5 4.Rd1 Rd5 5.Re1 e3 6.Qc2+ Bg6
  -+  (-2.78)   Depth: 15/40   00:14:51  635762kN
1.f3!
  -+  (-2.75)   Depth: 15/40   00:32:40  1427443kN
1.f3! Bh5 2.g4 e3 3.Rd1 Bf7 4.b4 e2 5.Re1 Rxd4
  -+  (-2.66)   Depth: 15/40   00:42:14  1841019kN
1.f3 Bh5 2.g4 e3 3.Rd1 Bf7 4.b4 e2 5.Re1 Rxd4 6.Qc2+
  -+  (-2.66)   Depth: 16/42   00:59:57  2619083kN
1.f3--
  -+  (-2.97)   Depth: 17/42   01:45:08  4599019kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 16.09.2001)

Uri



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