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Subject: Re: f3?? from deepblue-kasparov game 5 match1

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 13:56:17 09/18/01

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On September 17, 2001 at 11:23:15, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 17, 2001 at 03:41:56, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>>How about looking at the position that results in the game forced after f3 e3,
>>and then evaluating that from human viewpoint?
>
>I don't think the "human viewpoint" matters here one iota.  We are talking
>about chess engines preferring f3.  Not humans.  If today's programs prefer
>f3 after very deep searches, then I find it hard to criticize DB for doing the
>same after a much shorter search.

I'm not criticizing the machine, man the thing is 6 years old
and in we didn't do much better at P133s and pentiumpro's.

The main point is that the f3 move is losing bigtime and chanceless and
that DB has completely missed Bh5 as a response from computer viewpoint
and its endgame evaluation of course also missed that f3 e3 is a simple
technical win, just like many evaluations of today still do, meaning in
short that it's very easy to explain why it played f3.

f3 is not the best move in this position by any means. When computersearches
already show it's -5 then that proves my point bigtime, of course they
miss the next 30 moves which are needed to conquer chanceless all the other
pawns from white.

If you already say -5 without seeing those 30 moves then the proof is
very clear!

Best regards,
Vincent



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