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Subject: Re: How high would the Rating of Belle realy be

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 14:14:20 09/23/01

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On September 23, 2001 at 10:28:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 23, 2001 at 10:09:45, Tony Werten wrote:
>
>>On September 23, 2001 at 09:41:01, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On September 23, 2001 at 05:38:29, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 22, 2001 at 13:06:54, Marc van Hal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Acording to the programmer it would have a rating of 2345
>>>>>After which Donner told them they realy did do everything to mislead the people
>>>>>
>>>>>To my point of vieuw he was right
>>>>>
>>>>>Marc van Hal
>>>>
>>>>It's rating was considerably lower than that of Donner's niece when she was 4.
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>Who is that?  A female IM/GM at that age???
>>
>>Donner was not very impressed by Belle. He played a match against it and claimed
>>afterwards:" It was terrible, my 4 year old niece plays better chess"
>>
>>Donner was famous in Holland for his rudeness (well, also for his chess of
>>course). If you had never been insulted by Donner, you didn't count.
>>
>>His nickname was "Iron Hein". Hein except for Donners first name, also being the
>>name for Death in dutch ( Skinny Hein).
>>
>>Tony
>
>
>Did he win?  Or did he get beat by a machine that could beat his 4-year old
>niece?  :)

Ehm he said that his Nice coul;d play better chess then the machine

Donner won

The programmer was Ken Thompson

The game was

Donner,Belle Delft/Muray Hill 1982
1.d4,d5
2.c4,c6
3.Nf3,c6
4.Nc3,e6
5.Bg5,Nbd7
6.e3,Qa5
7.Nd2,Bb4
8.Qc2,0-0
9.Be2,dxc4
10.Bxf6,Nxf6
11.Nxc4,Qc7
12.0-0,Rd8
13.a3,Be7
14.b4,b6
15.Rfc1,Bb7
16.Bf3,a6
17.Rab1,Nd7
18.a4,Rab8
19.g3?,Kh8? (Ken Thompson said that the program did see the move 19..Bxb4 after
for example 20.Rxb4,c5 21.dxc5,Bxf3 22.cxb6,Nxb6 23Rxb6,Qxb6 with a plus for
Black)
 but for some reason gave it a lower evaluation then the mainline
20.Bg2,f5??
21.Ne2,Re8
22.Nf4,Bg5
23.Nf4,Bg5
24.Nd3,Bf6
25.f4,Rec8
26.Nd2,Ba8
27.Nb3,Qa7
28.Qe2,Rc7
29.Nbc5,Nf8
30.Rc2,Re8
31.Rbc1,Kg8
32.Bf3,Rd8
33.g4,Rdc8
34.Rc3,fxg4
35.Bxg4,Re7
36.Qa2,Rce8
37.f5,Rd8
38.Nf4,Bxd4
39.exd4,Rxd4
40.f6,Rxf4
41.fxe7,Rg4+
42Rg3,Rxg3
43.hxg3,Qxe7
44.Qd2,h6
45.Rd1,Qe8
46.Qd6,e5
47.Qc7,Qh5
48.Rf1,Qe8
49.Qd6,e4
50.Rf4,e3
51.Re4,Qc8
52.Rxe3,h5
53.Re7,Qf5
54.Qf4,Qg6
55.Ra7,Qe8
56.Qd4,Qg6
57. Here the game was stopped there was decided no longer to use the trans
atlantic conection
and Olafson Vice president of the Fide decided and concluded that Donner had won

Ofcourse there must be serious doubt his Nice could make it this long



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