Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:52:03 09/23/01
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On September 23, 2001 at 17:14:20, Marc van Hal wrote: >On September 23, 2001 at 10:28:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On September 23, 2001 at 10:09:45, Tony Werten wrote: >> >>>On September 23, 2001 at 09:41:01, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On September 23, 2001 at 05:38:29, Tony Werten wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 22, 2001 at 13:06:54, Marc van Hal wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Acording to the programmer it would have a rating of 2345 >>>>>>After which Donner told them they realy did do everything to mislead the people >>>>>> >>>>>>To my point of vieuw he was right >>>>>> >>>>>>Marc van Hal >>>>> >>>>>It's rating was considerably lower than that of Donner's niece when she was 4. >>>>> >>>>>Tony >>>> >>>> >>>>Who is that? A female IM/GM at that age??? >>> >>>Donner was not very impressed by Belle. He played a match against it and claimed >>>afterwards:" It was terrible, my 4 year old niece plays better chess" >>> >>>Donner was famous in Holland for his rudeness (well, also for his chess of >>>course). If you had never been insulted by Donner, you didn't count. >>> >>>His nickname was "Iron Hein". Hein except for Donners first name, also being the >>>name for Death in dutch ( Skinny Hein). >>> >>>Tony >> >> >>Did he win? Or did he get beat by a machine that could beat his 4-year old >>niece? :) > >Ehm he said that his Nice coul;d play better chess then the machine > >Donner won > >The programmer was Ken Thompson > >The game was: Actually, Ken Thompson and Joe Condon _built_ the thing. Belle was not software at all, except for the first 2 plies. The rest was a huge PLA-based hardware black box that did the search and evaluation at a speed that made us all drool in 1980. It really was veryt strong. Probably around 2350 USCF or so. Not sure how that would translate to FIDE in the 1983-1984 time frame. > >Donner,Belle Delft/Muray Hill 1982 >1.d4,d5 >2.c4,c6 >3.Nf3,c6 >4.Nc3,e6 >5.Bg5,Nbd7 >6.e3,Qa5 >7.Nd2,Bb4 >8.Qc2,0-0 >9.Be2,dxc4 >10.Bxf6,Nxf6 >11.Nxc4,Qc7 >12.0-0,Rd8 >13.a3,Be7 >14.b4,b6 >15.Rfc1,Bb7 >16.Bf3,a6 >17.Rab1,Nd7 >18.a4,Rab8 >19.g3?,Kh8? (Ken Thompson said that the program did see the move 19..Bxb4 after >for example 20.Rxb4,c5 21.dxc5,Bxf3 22.cxb6,Nxb6 23Rxb6,Qxb6 with a plus for >Black) > but for some reason gave it a lower evaluation then the mainline >20.Bg2,f5?? >21.Ne2,Re8 >22.Nf4,Bg5 >23.Nf4,Bg5 >24.Nd3,Bf6 >25.f4,Rec8 >26.Nd2,Ba8 >27.Nb3,Qa7 >28.Qe2,Rc7 >29.Nbc5,Nf8 >30.Rc2,Re8 >31.Rbc1,Kg8 >32.Bf3,Rd8 >33.g4,Rdc8 >34.Rc3,fxg4 >35.Bxg4,Re7 >36.Qa2,Rce8 >37.f5,Rd8 >38.Nf4,Bxd4 >39.exd4,Rxd4 >40.f6,Rxf4 >41.fxe7,Rg4+ >42Rg3,Rxg3 >43.hxg3,Qxe7 >44.Qd2,h6 >45.Rd1,Qe8 >46.Qd6,e5 >47.Qc7,Qh5 >48.Rf1,Qe8 >49.Qd6,e4 >50.Rf4,e3 >51.Re4,Qc8 >52.Rxe3,h5 >53.Re7,Qf5 >54.Qf4,Qg6 >55.Ra7,Qe8 >56.Qd4,Qg6 >57. Here the game was stopped there was decided no longer to use the trans >atlantic conection >and Olafson Vice president of the Fide decided and concluded that Donner had won > >Ofcourse there must be serious doubt his Nice could make it this long
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