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Subject: Re: If an Older program was tested on newer Hardware

Author: Joshua Lee

Date: 10:12:37 10/06/01

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>I do not know about the HP chip but Wchess used pentium90 when it drew Deep Blue
>Prototype.
>
>Uri


This is the same Wchess as on the SSDF list version 1.06

  53 WChess2000  64MB P200 MMX               2355   31   -32   522   36%  2457
  83 WChess 1.06 Pentium 90 MHz              2231   20   -20  1222   39%  2308
  90 WChess 1.03 486/50-66 MHz               2198   27   -27   677   49%  2204

Ok so if anything Deep Thought/Blue/Prototype Only managed a draw against most
likely  WChess 1.06 which is 2231 on a P90 so for that one game Deep is within
396 elo points Which would make the prototype Around 2627 At best according to
statistics I.E if you play 100 games and draw 1 lose the rest. I don't think the
list ratings are Accurate, Deep Fritz is rated 2726 but on a 4x500 1550 it is
Around 151 points weaker, On a 500Mhz machine Fritz is Between
2355 and 2500  with 2423 being a safe average of two tournaments and On the list
2623 is obviously too high for Fritz 6 on a 450Mhz machine.


14-16cpu Deep Blue Prototype played in Hong Kong in 95 wasn't the actual Deep
Blue
If all this is 80-100% true Deep Prototype searching 4-5Million positions a
second would be (Fritz 2623 - 200 =2423     Wchess 2231 - 200 = 2031 ?? Not sure
about that ) This would make Deep Prototype 2427   Which is not logical, it is
safe to say some programs are incorrectly rated while others are not
 From SSDF's own Human Vs Computer Calibration you can Add or subtract 100-200
Points , Then if you include Chris Carson's list you can With some of the
results Fritz Deep Fritz, show that without a doubt This list is so bogus to
Claim on a 1200Mhz machine a chess program is playing in the same league with
Karpov, Kasparov, Botvinnik, Spassky etc

Alekhine at his peak Was 2690 , this is 36 points lower than DF If you think the
ratings are accurate there has to be something wrong with you're brain in light
of the facts.  As far as Deep Blue is concerned they added Knowledge and power
to this Tripling Their numbers 3 times +270 points  this would put Deep Blue at
2897 which makes the First Number Too High by 255 points as 2642 was the
performance from the 96 match with Deep Looking really like a (2535
positionally) The numbers don't match up here but suffice to say that It proves
SSDF is far off the mark despite what seirawan thinks.



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