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Subject: Re: If an Older program was tested on newer Hardware

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:22:38 10/06/01

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On October 06, 2001 at 08:10:18, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 06, 2001 at 07:45:37, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 06, 2001 at 02:05:37, Joshua Lee wrote:
>>
>>>Well if Anyone knows what version WChess is that drew Deep Blue
>>
>>This never happened.
>
>The media used the name Deep blue for Deep blue prototype that was used.
>so from the point of view of the public it happened.
>
>I agree that Deep blue prototype is not the same Deep blue that played kasparov
>but I think there should be no problem with using same name  for the program
>that played Wchess and the program that played Kasparov.
>
>I think that there is nothing wrong with using the name that was used by the
>media.
>People can use also the name fritz for both Fritz3 on p90 and for Fritz7 on 8
>processors and there is no confusion.
>
>The name Deep blue can be used for one of the following:
>1)Deep blue prototype(before the first match against kasparov)
>2)Deep blue 1(the program that was used in the first match against kasparov)
>3)deeper blue or Deep blue 2(the program that was used in the second match
>against kasparov).
>
>  So there is no version to know.  Wchess drew with
>>Deep thought in either 1993 or 1994 (the last two ACM events).  DB didn't
>>play its first game until 1996.  There were no ACM events after DB was
>>finished.
>
>I remember that Wchess drew against Deep blue Prototype in 1995 few monthes
>before the first match against kasparov that was in 1996


It had to be in Hong Kong then.  And the tournament info did, at one point,
call the thing "deep blue prototype -- deep blue software on deep thought
hardware".

As far as correctness goes, would you think that someone reporting about drawing
deep fritz should mention that they were using a dual-cpu 8086-class machine
rather than the real 1M+ nodes per second hardware everyone associates with
DF???




>
>>
>>
>>
>>> , How would that
>>>Compare with Top Programs? Mr Hyatt said it was on a PA chip which is a 64bit
>>>CPU as far as i know, how fast is that compared with the 1200Mhz Athlon?
>>
>>
>>This is scrambled a bit.  Zarkov was on the HP chip.  Not wchess.  The PA is
>>faster.  But also significantly more expensive.
>
>I do not know about the HP chip but Wchess used pentium90 when it drew Deep Blue
>Prototype.
>
>Uri



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