Author: Uri Blass
Date: 11:34:04 10/12/01
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On October 12, 2001 at 14:26:18, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 12, 2001 at 13:32:25, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On October 12, 2001 at 11:24:03, Daniel Clausen wrote: >> >>>Hi >>> >>>On October 12, 2001 at 10:23:07, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>[snip] >>> >>>>First try the Nolot test positions for 36 hours. Then report back with >>>>your "finding". :) >>> >>>And where exactly is the proof that the so-called solutions of these tests >>>really are the best? Or is it more like opening theory where the so-called >>>book moves just happen to be considered best/good by a large number of >>>people, whereas it's possible that white to move is lost from the beginning >>>(due to ZugZwang ;) and the best defense is a3? (maybe followed by h6! hee) >>> >>>Sargon >> >> >>Some of them are provably correct (almost all in fact). But they take >>far longer than 36 hours. >> >>If you really think 36 hours will solve _any_ problem, then you must think >>that computers are unbeatable at correspondence chess? They are _far_ from >>it in fact... > >I do not think that 36 hours are enough for every problem but beating a program >at correspondence game is not going to prove the question of the original poster >because he asked for as position that no program can solve It should be of course no top program because it is easy to build a lot of programs when always one of them will solve the position that you ask. You only need to write about 200 program by the following idea if you do not ask for top programs The first program is build to play the first move in the list of the legal moves. The second program is build to play the second move in the list of the legal moves or the first move if there is only onelegal move. The 50th program always play the 50th move in the move list or the first move if there are less than 50 legal moves. I think that the shirov Bh3's sacrifice is a good example for a position that no top program of today can solve in 36 hours. Uri
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