Author: Slater Wold
Date: 14:21:48 11/08/01
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On November 08, 2001 at 16:29:21, Otello Gnaramori wrote: >On November 08, 2001 at 13:56:51, Slater Wold wrote: > >>On November 08, 2001 at 12:13:07, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >> >>>It is actually quite simple: most people who have played frequently against a >>>prog have tried "weird" openings which the comp did not understand and most of >>>those people know how to make the prog go in to positions where it does not >>>shine bright, it is obviously quite individual, from the responses i got to my >>>post, how people define "anti comp", therefore if anyone takes the challenge it >>>should be under the agreement that the person does not use hi's or her's >>>variation of anti comp play, just play the board trying to find the best >>>possible move from and equal position. >>> >>>Regards >>>Jonas >>> >>>PS: before this goes out of hand, i fell like making a legal disclaimer :) >> >>Jonas, let's play a game of chess! >> >>As soon as we start, I will try to play an opening I know better. I will try to >>get us into a position that you (hopefully) won't understand as well as I do. >> >>I think that's the point of chess. You do what you have to, in order to win. > >...to exploit the weakness of the adversary (that's written in my old chess >book)...but you miss the point of Jonas : he means "Let's play against a comp as >if it would be an human" .e.g.: > >1) don't try to close positions too much to avoid tactics tricks. I do this all the time in 1/0. >2) don't try the trick of dutch stonewall attack . Most computers don't fall for this anymore. Not as bad anyway. >3) don't try to exit the book too early to mislead the comp. I've seen some pretty wacky openings in h vs h games. And I even try some *weird* openings from time to time against other humans. >etcetera ... the classic weaponry of anticomps specialist : > >If you want to learn more , here is an useful link : I know *ALL* about anti-comp tricks. But these are all pretty useless nowadays. IMHO. > >http://home.att.net/~theb8ts/jims/chess.htm > >Regards. I understand what Jonas is saying. I understand 100%. What I don't understand, is why it matters. If you can "trick" a computer a win, then that means the computer needs more work. I'd be willing to put some money on DJ7 and my computer vs *any* GM, IM, or person at this forum. And they can use *ANY* tactics they like. :) > > > > > >> >>:) >> >> >>Slate >> >>> >>>This is my own attempt to define "anti comp" play, it be objective, subjective >>>or whatever come to mind, it is still just an opinion on my behalf. >>>If you accept the challenge and find a winning sac then of course be my guest >>>and kill the comp, i have no personal issues involved in this challenge: it is a >>>mere suggestion, take it or leave, i am open for debate though :) >>> >>>Regards >>>Jonas
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