Author: Jonas Cohonas
Date: 17:24:11 11/08/01
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On November 08, 2001 at 17:21:48, Slater Wold wrote: >On November 08, 2001 at 16:29:21, Otello Gnaramori wrote: > >>On November 08, 2001 at 13:56:51, Slater Wold wrote: >> >>>On November 08, 2001 at 12:13:07, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>> >>>>It is actually quite simple: most people who have played frequently against a >>>>prog have tried "weird" openings which the comp did not understand and most of >>>>those people know how to make the prog go in to positions where it does not >>>>shine bright, it is obviously quite individual, from the responses i got to my >>>>post, how people define "anti comp", therefore if anyone takes the challenge it >>>>should be under the agreement that the person does not use hi's or her's >>>>variation of anti comp play, just play the board trying to find the best >>>>possible move from and equal position. >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>Jonas >>>> >>>>PS: before this goes out of hand, i fell like making a legal disclaimer :) >>> >>>Jonas, let's play a game of chess! >>> >>>As soon as we start, I will try to play an opening I know better. I will try to >>>get us into a position that you (hopefully) won't understand as well as I do. >>> >>>I think that's the point of chess. You do what you have to, in order to win. >> >>...to exploit the weakness of the adversary (that's written in my old chess >>book)...but you miss the point of Jonas : he means "Let's play against a comp as >>if it would be an human" .e.g.: >> >>1) don't try to close positions too much to avoid tactics tricks. > >I do this all the time in 1/0. > >>2) don't try the trick of dutch stonewall attack . > >Most computers don't fall for this anymore. Not as bad anyway. > >>3) don't try to exit the book too early to mislead the comp. > >I've seen some pretty wacky openings in h vs h games. And I even try some >*weird* openings from time to time against other humans. > >>etcetera ... the classic weaponry of anticomps specialist : >> >>If you want to learn more , here is an useful link : > >I know *ALL* about anti-comp tricks. But these are all pretty useless nowadays. > IMHO. > >> >>http://home.att.net/~theb8ts/jims/chess.htm >> >>Regards. > >I understand what Jonas is saying. I understand 100%. What I don't understand, >is why it matters. If you can "trick" a computer a win, then that means the >computer needs more work. > I agree with you 100%, but the objective was to see if anyone here could actually win over the comp without all the anti comp tricks, what ever they might be. Regards Jonas
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