Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Easy pawn ending for computers ?!

Author: Rafael Andrist

Date: 08:11:29 11/18/01

Go up one level in this thread


On November 18, 2001 at 10:34:12, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 18, 2001 at 10:14:09, Rafael Andrist wrote:
>
>>On November 18, 2001 at 10:03:15, piet de hoop wrote:
>>
>>>The next position occured in Diep versus Rebel Century 4 round 6 of the Dutch
>>>Open Computer Chess 2001
>>>
>>>[D] 8/6p1/3k3p/8/3K4/7P/8/8 b - - 0 43
>>
>>If the program doesn't know it is a draw, then Black won't give his extra pawn
>>away in the search. To recognize a draw by 50 move rule, several hundreds of
>>plys are necessary.
>
>I think that it is possible to prove a draw by repetition in less plies.
>I did not check it but my intuition tells me that the black king has not too
>many squares to defend the pawns so it seems that less than 100 plies are needed
>for a repetition or losing a pawn for black even after considering the fact that
>the black pawns may go forward every few plies to avoid repetition.
>
>Uri

Your intuition seems to be right, Uri. I experimentally told my chessprogram
Wilhelm to look at it as a co-ordinated squares problem. To hold the draw score
which I immediately get, Wilhelm starts to advance pawns. So probably less than
100 plys are needed, but I guess it will be around this depth.

Rafael B. Andrist



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.