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Subject: Re: Easy pawn ending for computers ?!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:34:12 11/18/01

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On November 18, 2001 at 10:14:09, Rafael Andrist wrote:

>On November 18, 2001 at 10:03:15, piet de hoop wrote:
>
>>The next position occured in Diep versus Rebel Century 4 round 6 of the Dutch
>>Open Computer Chess 2001
>>
>>[D] 8/6p1/3k3p/8/3K4/7P/8/8 b - - 0 43
>>
>>The result was a draw, but for some computerprograms I tried, the evaluation was
>>from -1 to -3.4 pawn. (Fritz 6.0, Crafty,Yace)
>>
>>I expect that programs equipped with the right pawntable base have no problem
>>with this position, but i expected that programs without these tablebase while
>>calculating over 30 plys or more should give the right evalution?
>>
>>Or do i miss something?
>>
>
>If the program doesn't know it is a draw, then Black won't give his extra pawn
>away in the search. To recognize a draw by 50 move rule, several hundreds of
>plys are necessary.

I think that it is possible to prove a draw by repetition in less plies.
I did not check it but my intuition tells me that the black king has not too
many squares to defend the pawns so it seems that less than 100 plies are needed
for a repetition or losing a pawn for black even after considering the fact that
the black pawns may go forward every few plies to avoid repetition.

Uri



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