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Subject: Re: more examples for search-based stupidity

Author: Hristo

Date: 20:53:34 06/13/98

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On June 13, 1998 at 23:19:24, Mark Young wrote:

>On June 13, 1998 at 23:05:00, Hristo wrote:
>
>>I understand, perfectly, what you are talking about!
>>
>>>>Can you name one program(or computer) that can predict(calculate) every
>>>>possible move from the very beginig of the game unitl the very last move
>>>
>>>yes given the time, most programs can, if they don't have a ply cut off
>>>point that is to low. :)
>>
>>I've tried Rebel, Fritz5 and crafty and all of them have very similar
>>problems.
>>I've done test where even after 48 hours of "thinking" the programs were
>>unable to find the best possible move. Since none of the programs
>>performs a full search on the possible postitions there is a cut-off
>>reason to not evaluate a branch ... cut-off a branch here and there and
>>your tree doesn't give you enough information about the position! If one
>>evaluates ALL possible moves and builds a full tree with no cut-offs
>>then it will work. Just how long shall we wait until this happens??
>>
>>About your comparison of Fritz and CST ... what is your point? One of
>>them works different than the other!? Very well, thats great! Somebody
>>has got enough "balls" to not follow the "gray creek" no matter how
>>appealing it might seem.
>>
>>I've never seen CST so I don't know how well it plays!
>>
>What is the point in talking to you. If you don't even understand this
>joke. LOL :):):). 48 hours. 10^48 hours may not be enough time. Since
>you just cut off my real point I guess you still don't understand that
>either.
>

Mark you are so funny ... I need to visit the doctor for stomach aches
...
Why do you talk at all Mark?!
What is your point Mark?! 10^x hours will eventualy be enough!!! This is
heck of a point!!! You can take it to the bank, but I'm afraid they will
not see your point either.
You can state the "bleeding" obvious until one day somebody wakes you up
... hopefully you will not be too old~



Hristo


>>
>>Hristo



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