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Subject: Re: more examples for search-based stupidity

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 07:39:16 06/14/98

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On June 14, 1998 at 04:03:51, blass uri wrote:
>you cannot see in the games thorsten posted that hxg5 is a mistake
>without a search and if you have an evaluation function that say it
>without search your program
>can do mistakes in sacrificing when the opponent takes the material
>and the initiative for it is not enough.
>
>Uri

Thats typical. You reduce the games on hxg. But the problems came much
earlier. This have all 3 games in common. Black oversaw major positional
rules.
And I can name them to you if you don't know. I can make a list.
In the same way you say NO EVALUATION can see that hxg is shit, I can
tell you that no search will find out that these positional blunders are
shit.

So ! How can we come together. Not with you all denying that these
"positional" mistakes are real ! Or that they don't care you. If you
really believe in your ideology about these topics, than I am pleased to
follow the development of your programs on the next championships and
other tournaments.
It will not work than. Overseeing major positional stuff will not lead a
program to win.

When 5K would have no chance against 300K, this is what some people say,
and what I cannot reproduce, because cstal HAS a high chance to win
against Fritz, why e.g. was Gandalf able to kill Fritz ? Gandalf was a
slow program in the old days (before Jakarta) and was easily able to
kill Fritz. I have sent the games to chessBase.

Why do you deny things ? Why do you oversee facts ? Why do you want to
be blind towards positional things ?



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