Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 02:13:19 02/14/02
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On February 14, 2002 at 04:29:09, Uri Blass wrote: >On February 14, 2002 at 03:12:14, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On February 14, 2002 at 02:46:36, Slater Wold wrote: >>[snip] >>>My main thinking here is: >>> >>>Rebel will more than likely win 75% of its games against Crafty in the 40/120. >>>Now if Crafty can beat Rebel 75% of the time in the 40/12000, what does that >>>show? That Crafty is "rebel strength" when given a 100x time odds? Or that >>>simply HW = chess program performance? Well, I think all that will be >>>determined in the moves in makes in the time odds games. >>> >>>Little Goliath vs Shredder was something that GCP suggested. LG is extremly >>>fast, and from what I understand, not overly complex. Shredder on the other >>>hand is as slow as they come, and again, from what I understand, very complex. >>> >>>Does MHZ = ELO. And if it does, how much? Imagine the stink if Rebel were to >>>win 75% in 40/120 and 75% in 40/12000. >> >>I am guessing that Rebel is about 100 ELO stronger than crafty. I also believe >>(on scanty evidence based on the chess in 2010 experiment) that the advantage >>vanishes at very long time control. > >I agree that the difference is probably more closer to 100 elo than 200 elo but >I do not believe that the difference vanishes at long time control. > >I believe that it was truth in the past because Rebel had search holes because >of it's selective search algorithm but I guess that Ed improved his program from >that time. I have a different view. In those days Crafy was a weak positional player while Rebel was a much more polished and tuned engine. I still hold my claim the Rebel of that time could beat the Crafty of that time even if Crafty was given 100 x more time. It was only one game, but just have a look at the game itself, it proved what I was saying all the time: having a good eval is worth many plies. Looking at nowadays Crafty I see a much better tuned engine, it would be silly to lengthen my claim. Ed >Uri
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