Author: Ricardo Gibert
Date: 17:00:25 02/18/02
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On February 18, 2002 at 19:43:35, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >On February 18, 2002 at 16:51:54, Roy Eassa wrote: > >>I think you will find that more strong chess players (& chess programmers & >>heavy users of chess software) are likely to prefer this design: >>http://www.sciencedaily.com/index.htm to this design: http://www.submethod.com >>(to use examples already mentioned in this thread). It may be a >>left-brain/right-brain thing. I also vote to avoid pop-ups. > >How funny! I at first included the sciencedaily link too, but I decided to not >overcomplicate my post and left it out. Oops! I did include it after all. Never mind. > >> >> >> >>On February 18, 2002 at 16:35:02, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >> >>>On February 18, 2002 at 16:09:46, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >>> >>>>On February 18, 2002 at 15:36:04, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 18, 2002 at 15:23:18, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On February 18, 2002 at 14:12:29, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.betachess.dk >>>>>> >>>>>>Lots of clicking without purpose. >>>>>> >>>>>>We can only ask ourselves, "Why?" >>>>>> >>>>>>Right off the bat, I find that I must click on something that says "[enter]". >>>>>> >>>>>>Now, I ask myself the question: >>>>>> >>>>>>Why did I type http://www.betachess.dk if it were not for the purpose of >>>>>>entering the site? >>>>>> >>>>>>Don't hide menus. >>>>>> >>>>>>Well, I guess if you are after some sort of "art neuveau" crowd or something >>>>>>maybe it is the effect you are after. >>>>>> >>>>>>For me, I like it simple. And the simpler the better. >>>>> >>>>>Actually if my site was any simpler it would be betachess.txt :) >>>>>That is why i hide the menu's, to make it simple. >>>>>The reason you have to enter is that there is a code which makes the window >>>>>pop up in a certain size, this ensures that all resolutions can veiw my site. >>>>>"art neuveau"?? what do you mean, i have no idea. >>>>> >>>>>Regards >>>>>Jonas >>>> >>>>Actually, DC's reponse was right on target. You need to "listen" better, rather >>>>than become defensive. >>> >>>I was not being defensive, just didn't quite understand what he was saying. >>> >>>>By simple, DC means no unnecessary techniques that you really have no >>>>justification for using. >>> >>>Actually there is a justification for this: >>>The "techniques" that i use have a purpuse, the [enter] ensures that the window >>>pops up in the size i want it to 650x500, but i already explained this. >>> >>>>I don't like the [Enter] screen either. >>>> >>>>Too much clicking means you should not require your vistors to click on thing to >>>>see anything. There are a couple of screens that should have presented at least >>>>one menu right off the bat rather than having the user having to activate one. >>>>Be something of a minimalist as far the number of clicks needed from the user to >>>>get around and figure out what to look at. Same goes for hovering the cursor for >>>>information. >>> >>>Actually this is a question of taste, not functionality, by clicking once to >>>enter the site and hovering your curser to navigate is just as functional as >>>anything else, but if you don't like it that's fine and i will take it into >>>consideration. >>> >>>>The first screen after entering is something of puzzle that is very annoying. >>>>Get rid of it. Also, not everybody has broadband, so the large graphic will be >>>>slow for them. >>> >>>It is only 35 Kb........ less than most. >>> >>>>The screens that follow (rating lists, etc.) are to slow on my 800mhz athlon >>>>with a cable modem. >>> >>>Well i know that they take some time to load the first time you load them, about >>>10 sec on a 56 k modem, but next time they should load in 2-3 secs max. >>> >>>>You keep using little tricks without justification. Reminds me of people who >>>>produce a site with a large variety fonts for no good reason. Same sort of >>>>thing. >>> >>>You make it sound like a conspiracy :) what do you mean exactly by "You keep >>>using little tricks without justification" ??? >>>I use different "tricks" to make a new approach, not to piss people off. >>> >>>>The following site uses an effective and simple basic design that is very >>>>flexible that I like a lot. Visitor's are immediately presented with a lot of >>>>summary information about what is in the site and are able to make informed >>>>decisions about what to look at in more detail in the rest of the site: >>>> >>>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/ >>> >>>I guess we look at effective and simple in different ways :) >>>This is one of my fav's: >>>http://www.blitzds.com >>>And one more: >>>http://www.submethod.com >>> >>>>Another site I like is: >>>> >>>>http://www.sciencedaily.com/index.htm >>>> >>>>There is a lot more I don't like about the site, but it is not worth the trouble >>>>pointing them out. Just remember, simple is better and I don't mean a screens >>>>devoid of useful information. That's annoying. >>> >>>Well i hear what you say, but you sound like you are genuinly annoyed :) >>> >>>Regards >>>Jonas
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