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Subject: Re: Fritz is a GM

Author: Mark Young

Date: 05:21:58 07/13/98

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On July 13, 1998 at 05:28:26, Shaun Graham wrote:

>Concerning the Kotronias Fritz match:
>
> Well a single match doesn't prove or support anything.  If kasparov or Anand
>played most any GM alive, a 3 game match the score would be 3-1 or even 3 0!!
>Fischer beat larsen 6 0 does that mean Larsen is not grandmaster strength?
>Further Grandmasters have an unfair advantage against computers in that in
>professional chess, GMs prepare for each other.  Kotronias can prepare for
>fritz, but Fritz can't prepare for kotronias(except IF a special opening book
>has been prepared but still not the same)  Further Kotronias WOULD BE EXPECTED
>TO BEAT some people with the GM title 3 0! At least Fritz had a point.  Seeing
>that he had a point, and you attempt tosuggest that a 3 game match is
>evidence,would you claim that Fritz is I.M strength since it BEAT a grandmaster
>after all.   If you accept that Fritz is I.M strength, then you should know that
>there are I.M.'s that are stronger than many grandmasters case in point "Igor
>Ivanov, Sokolin, Michael Brooks".  Many I.M.s get the grandmaster title simply
>by playing in lots of tournaments in europe, if you are an I.M, and you play
>enough especially in lower category tourneys you will get the 3 GM norms.  In
>the New york open there were several GMs in the under 2400 section, and even a
>couple rated under 2300!!  So is Fritz a GM?
>  Also GM's often beat computers by playing anti computer chess instead of
>regular
>chess, so if i showed up and was bieng secretly told moves by fritz, and no one
>knew to play ANTI COMPUTER chess against me i'd kill and have my norm!  So yes
>Fritz is a grandmaster at regular chess(at least on a P400)but because it has
>weaknesses that it's opponent can know and play against, and fritz can not alter
>itself that results in losses.  Fritz is a GM if it were in a human body!

Fritz is a GM at 5 min chess, and 30 min chess but not at 40 moves in 2 hours.
Even if computers today were 2 to 3 times faster I don't think Fritz 5 would be
a GM at slow chess.

If you were to play Fritz 5 as a human, it would work for a few games, but it
would not take the stronger players long to find your weakness and knock Fritz 5
back to earth.

I know Michael, and you are correct. He is stronger then some GM's.



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