Author: Mark Young
Date: 05:21:58 07/13/98
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On July 13, 1998 at 05:28:26, Shaun Graham wrote: >Concerning the Kotronias Fritz match: > > Well a single match doesn't prove or support anything. If kasparov or Anand >played most any GM alive, a 3 game match the score would be 3-1 or even 3 0!! >Fischer beat larsen 6 0 does that mean Larsen is not grandmaster strength? >Further Grandmasters have an unfair advantage against computers in that in >professional chess, GMs prepare for each other. Kotronias can prepare for >fritz, but Fritz can't prepare for kotronias(except IF a special opening book >has been prepared but still not the same) Further Kotronias WOULD BE EXPECTED >TO BEAT some people with the GM title 3 0! At least Fritz had a point. Seeing >that he had a point, and you attempt tosuggest that a 3 game match is >evidence,would you claim that Fritz is I.M strength since it BEAT a grandmaster >after all. If you accept that Fritz is I.M strength, then you should know that >there are I.M.'s that are stronger than many grandmasters case in point "Igor >Ivanov, Sokolin, Michael Brooks". Many I.M.s get the grandmaster title simply >by playing in lots of tournaments in europe, if you are an I.M, and you play >enough especially in lower category tourneys you will get the 3 GM norms. In >the New york open there were several GMs in the under 2400 section, and even a >couple rated under 2300!! So is Fritz a GM? > Also GM's often beat computers by playing anti computer chess instead of >regular >chess, so if i showed up and was bieng secretly told moves by fritz, and no one >knew to play ANTI COMPUTER chess against me i'd kill and have my norm! So yes >Fritz is a grandmaster at regular chess(at least on a P400)but because it has >weaknesses that it's opponent can know and play against, and fritz can not alter >itself that results in losses. Fritz is a GM if it were in a human body! Fritz is a GM at 5 min chess, and 30 min chess but not at 40 moves in 2 hours. Even if computers today were 2 to 3 times faster I don't think Fritz 5 would be a GM at slow chess. If you were to play Fritz 5 as a human, it would work for a few games, but it would not take the stronger players long to find your weakness and knock Fritz 5 back to earth. I know Michael, and you are correct. He is stronger then some GM's.
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