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Subject: Re: Are there any chess tiger 14 updates

Author: sean

Date: 02:32:00 04/12/02

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On April 11, 2002 at 23:55:21, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On April 11, 2002 at 18:04:25, sean wrote:
>
>>On April 11, 2002 at 14:53:38, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On April 11, 2002 at 12:52:12, sean wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 10, 2002 at 22:55:21, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 10, 2002 at 22:13:08, sean wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 10, 2002 at 15:36:50, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On April 10, 2002 at 13:30:21, jamal wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just wanted to check if there were any updates for chess tiger 14 or gambit
>>>>>>>>tiger 2.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>AFAIK none, excluding what is available on the subscription page gambit book
>>>>>>>etc. It must be remembered that 14 and 2.0 were already free upgrades.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They were supposed to be fixes, not upgrades, and chessbase care about their
>>>>>>clients, thats why.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Your statement makes no sense, how did chessbase come up?
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway your wrong, they were not "fixes", it was simply a free upgrade.
>>>>>This upgrade came with stronger engines plus extra playing styles for Gambit and
>>>>>tablebase use.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Do you deny that tiger 14 has a learning problem, tiger 12 has it too, Ed has
>>>>stated this on two seperate ocasions, and he also said it would be fixed in
>>>>version 14, which it was not, it is easy to book up against, it can beat every
>>>>time with the antiborg opening when tiger is using its engine book, user books
>>>>weaken tigers general playing strenth,
>>>
>>>
>>>Tiger has been #1 on the SSDF's lists, so the learning problem wasn't really so
>>>apparent for the other programs to figure out.
>>>
>>>As far as the anti-borg systems that were used on ICC it was very simple to
>>>write a small add.bk book with a couple of lines and have this as well as ct.tbk
>>>open.
>>>
>>>However this subject is far from the original topic which was "Are there any
>>>chess tiger 14 updates".
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have been a member of the tiger forum
>>>>for over a year, so dont say I dont know what Im talking about, I was one of the
>>>>first to discover tigers problem,
>>>
>>>
>>>Wow our hero...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I believe you knew about it long before
>>>>anybody and were hoping it would just slide by people,
>>>
>>>
>>>So then if you were "one of the first" then I was first....wow I'm my own hero
>>>;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>> it has cost me $100, I
>>>>will be spending my money else where from now on,
>>>
>>>
>>>Not sure why you paid $100 but that's your problem. Even so $100 for Tiger which
>>>included Century and Gambit and followed up with a free upgrade I'd say you got
>>>your money's worth. I'd also bet the number of satisfied Tiger customers
>>>outweigh others.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I personaly think the $Rebel$
>>>>company are liers and your support sucks.
>>>
>>>
>>>Rather sadly everyone is entitled to their own opinion, it's like having a vote.
>>>It's well known that some people vote without knowing what their voting about or
>>>for. Seems the same to me.
>>>
>>>Sarah.
>>
>>
>>Whats sad is all the idiots totaly defending them like they are perfect, ok lets
>>say Im totaly wrong and tiger is perfect and their support isnt sucky at all,
>>and Im imagining that they only answer questions on their forum when it suits
>>them ect ect ect, I must have been born yesterday then, I wouldnt like any of
>>those people being durors.
>
>
>
>If you have something *interesting* to complain about, I'm here all the time.
>
>Saying that Tiger 14 was a "fix" is neither interesting nor true.
>
>I don't know what kind of support you expect if you start by spreading lies.
>
>Now if you are not satisfied with the Tiger 14 upgrade, I'm going to send you a
>refund. Tell me, how much did you pay to get your Tiger 14 upgrade?
>
>
>
>    Christophe


That sounds reasonable to me, I will have to look for the receipt, will let you
know soon.

I wasn't lying, I was reffering to what Ed posted a while back,

"It is true, Tiger II has a learning problem. Christophe and Lex are working on
it. The "patch" + an extra increase of playing strength is expected mid January"
Ed

Patch (a minor usually temporary correction or modification in a computer
program)

And the learning problem was not fixed in tiger 14>

"There is a problem with Tiger's learning algorithm, it will be fixed in the
next version"
Ed

Any way let us hear no more about it and put it behind us.









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